Looks like it could be an interesting film. Lots of characters weaved into a
bizarre plot based on the truth and lead by Malkovich, a sort of loon in his
own right, but a fine actor given good material, what more could one want?
Malcovich even once did a "Top 10" on Letterman; it was one of the best.
What was the "category"?
If it's handled as a black comedy, as it appears, that's good IMO. A
straight sort of docu-drama could be pretty boring I think. Of course anyone
should wait until they at least see it before forming an opinion of the
film's merits or lack of..........
I agree wholeheartedly. One should always reserve judgement until all
the facts are in.
Also, I like the idea that it is a dark comedy. I think it has to be
tongue-in-cheek, considering how outrageous this all is. If it were
done as a "very serious" work it would probably turn people off. I
liked the satirical use of "Thus Spake Zarathustra" in the trailer.
That sets us up for the dark comedy right there. The "I'm Stanley
Kubrick!" bit in the "nervous hospital" was a hoot too. One thinks of
Peter Sellers as Quilty saying, "No, I'm Spartacus. You come to free
the slaves or something?" to James Mason as Humbert in "Lolita."
I thought that was a funny clip though I wonder if it's so obscure to most
of the public that they'll even get it?
What disturbs me about the Conway story is that he got away with duping so
Yes. It's puzzling, isn't it?
There are a lot of stupid people in the world. Go into a bar and start doing
an outrageously bad British accent and start telling people you're Peter
Sellers no matter what you look like and you'll probably get a few that
believe that too...
Why is this? Conway apparently didn't know much at all about Kubrick
or his work. So someone who did know about Kubrick should have easily
been able to trip him up and expose him. Conclusion: Not enough
people knew about Kubrick or his films beyond a vague recollection.
Is it possible that because ACO was "banned" in the UK for so long that
people didn't think back to any publicity photos that accompanied it
then? Perhaps it might also have been because BL wasn't a big hit. Then
TS ended up being known more through the Nicholson and King fans. Then
there was those long stretches between FMJ and EWS. I'm sure that all
of these factors added up in one way or another.
Even in our media saturated time you have to go out of your way to Google up
a picture of Stanley for most people to even know what he looks like. What I
would be curious about is the people that didn't fall for Conway, tried to
raise an alarm and failed utterly to be listened to.
I can't believe no one was skeptical of him back then because from what I
can recall of the documentary about him he looked loonier than Malcovich and
like such a putz I couldn't believe anyone believed his claims in the first
John Lovitz liar guy would have been more believable as a Stanley. I wonder
if Conway claimed as "Kubrick" that he'd faked the Moon landings for NASA?
Right there you could imagine a bunch of conspiracy nuts going "I KNEW IT!"
and buying him all he could drink...
I gotta dig up my copy of the Conway doc and watch it again.
I think his name should be commonplace based on the artistic contribution he
made to the world, and it is sort of, but the average depth to which Kubrick
is known doesn't seem to penetrate much beyond the titles of the movies he
made. That's a tragedy.
I agree. But the average person doesn't give a shit about film
directors, unless they are "name" directors like Spielberg or
Tarantino. Just look at the crap that clutters up the majority of
screen at multiplexes across the country! Do the people who gather to
these theaters like pigs to a trough really care WHO directed the damn
thing they're watching? My Bog, all one has to do is look at where
Orson Welles' career ended up to see how much the world cared about his
artistic contribution. Most people by the time of his death remembered
him only as this fat old guy who hawked wine on TV. And the average
young moviegover knows even less than that!
Well look at what the public flocks to see every weekend. Looked how they
lined up for those insipid Matrix movies!
There was an interesting article on Salon the other day about the dearth of
originality in recent films, especially how the so called 'indie' movement
has been co-opted by Hollywood that I thought was interesting
So like it's been said, maybe this movie will make more aware of the real
Stanley Kubrick and what he accomplished. This then may lead to a more
widespread appreciation of his work as more become interested and take a
better look at it. Or even a look at all, how many people do you know that
would go out of their way to watch some of his earlier films like "The
Killing", POG and "Lolita"?
Really. Look at the number of posters here who know him only for ACO.
It is an almost-great film, but I'm afraid that many of those admirers
like it for the wrong reasons. It's the ugly consequences from that
film that I believe Kubrick made himself more "secluded" from the
public. He had to protect his family; they always came first. But the
anonmynity he tried to establish ended up working against him,
ironically. And Conway and his perverted little masquerade was probably
I wonder if this has happened to any other directors? I would imagine this
sort of thing goes on a lot with grifters anyhow.
On the other hand, Conway would have never gotten away with impersonating
someone like Spielberg for instance. Spielberg and his ilk never dodge
publicity and too many people know what they look like because they are all
over television and so forth. Kubrick obviously didn't want that sort of
notoriety, but I don't think he would have minded having more watch his films
simply because he was the one that made them. That's fame worth having.
Right. But that's only in a perfect world, and we don't live in a
perfect world. Of course, if we did then Stanley Kubrick as a filmmaker
would never have existed. He probably would have been a doctor, like
his father. A brilliant physician to the medical community, but a
staggering loss in the advancing the art of the cinema.
Boaz ("I must say you guys have come up with something.")
Well there's a movie right there!
Maybe Stanley WAS also a brilliant brain surgeon, the leader of a rock and
roll band and a buckaroo who along with his cavalier sidekicks fought aliens
from the 8th dimension in his spare time?
Come on, it coulda happened...
Mission Control: "Er, Stanley, The White House wants to know is everything
ok with the alien space craft from Planet Ten or should we just go ahead and
Stanley: "Tell him yes on one and no on two."
Mission Control: "Uh, which one was yes - go ahead and destroy Russia - or
"Don't pull on that! You never know what it might be attached to!"
-- Buckaroo Banzai