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Training Week Ending 11 September 2011
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MU
2011-09-16 23:40:05 UTC
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I don't think I have ever eaten *half* a banana. Once I open one I
assume I have to eat the whole thing.
Here we have the ingrained behavior of the modern (post Great
Depression)consumer. It is the result of several/all of the
conditionings a few of which are "clean your plate; no waste" taught by
guilt conditioned parents, the marketing of the USDA, private marketing
of the agricultural megacorporateplex, the fast food industry and
others.

Mr. Earl is amply demonstrating his conditioning as clearly as Alex de
Large was conditioned to hate violence. Both are artificial, neither
inherent from birth, both taught consciously and subconsciously.

Which is why the 2PD OMER approach to eating attacks the central problem
- oversconsumption.

http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier

Note that Mr. Earl did not say " I don't think I have ever eaten *half*
a banana. Once I open one I assume I have to /consume all the calories
in it/".
Whosoever
2011-09-17 06:03:46 UTC
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The absolutely only healthy way to stop the overeating is to
the heart by holding to the
right daily amount (32 oz) of food.
Untrue.

The diet invented by Andrew B. Chung, is only one of many available
dietary options.

Take into consideration though; that there isn't a single bit of
obtainable empirical clinical evidence, to support Andrew B. Chung's
opinion of the diet he invented.

Nor is there a single licensed nutritionist or dietitian who's on on
record having supported Andrew B. Chung's opinion of the diet he
invented.

Nor is there a single theologian, Bible scholar or historian who will
back up Andrew B. Chung's opinion of what an "omer" weighs, or any of
Andrew B. Chung's other opinions as to how the Bible supposedly
applies
directly to the diet he invented.

All you really have to go by regarding the diet invented by Andrew B
Chung,
is nothing more than Andrew B. Chung's opinions and personal claims.

Andrew B. Chung will claim that the diet he invented was the result of
a vision form God, however he didn't start making this claim until
about five years after its 1998 inception.
He will also claim it's not a diet, even though he called it a diet
until about five years after its 1998 inception.
happened in 1997 during the viewing of an IMAX
Mt.Everest documentary that started playing at the Tennessee Aquarium
Untrue.

The release date for the IMAX documentary "Everest" was 6 March 1998.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120661/releaseinfo
2 pound diet
[I] Dr. Chung invented this approach
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/fd713904855bfa2c?hl=en
That is a distortion of what is actually written [in the Bible] in a
vain attempt to change it.
Which of course is exactly what Chung has done with every single one
of the numerous Bible verses he's misapplied to his 2pid diet.
Using Chung's method of operation against him, really brings out his
hypocritical indignation :-)

On his rusted blog, Chung says that he started receiving a
tremendously negative outcome when he began misapplying Sacred
Biblical Scripture in an exploitative promotion of the 2pid diet he
invented. This negativity, this continual downward spiral he's been
experiencing is the harvest of the seeds of duplicity he's sown.
[I'm] Simply smarter as evident by the MD/PhD
It's a shame those smarts didn't withstand the test of time.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-17 08:10:11 UTC
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Post by MU
I don't think I have ever eaten *half* a banana. Once I open one I
assume I have to eat the whole thing.
Here we have the ingrained behavior of the modern (post Great
Depression)consumer. It is the result of several/all of the
conditionings a few of which are "clean your plate; no waste" taught by
guilt conditioned parents, the marketing of the USDA, private marketing
of the agricultural megacorporateplex, the fast food industry and
others.
Mr. Earl is amply demonstrating his conditioning as clearly as Alex de
Large was conditioned to hate violence. Both are artificial, neither
inherent from birth, both taught consciously and subconsciously.
I agree with your assessments.
Post by MU
Which is why the 2PD OMER approach to eating attacks the central problem
- oversconsumption.
http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
Post by MU
Note that Mr. Earl did not say " I don't think I have ever eaten *half*
a banana. Once I open one I assume I have to /consume all the calories
in it/".
Who does?
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MU
2011-09-17 11:32:50 UTC
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Mr. Earl is amply demonstrating his conditioning as clearly as Alex de
Large was conditioned to hate violence. Both are artificial, neither
inherent from birth, both taught consciously and subconsciously.
I agree with your assessments.
Post by MU
Which is why the 2PD OMER approach to eating attacks the central problem
- oversconsumption.
http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
You are missing nothing, the 2PD OMER is as simple as it appears. Is it
news? Truth is simple but often overlooked especially when it confronts
a supersized, highly conditioned, brainwashed populace.
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Post by MU
Note that Mr. Earl did not say " I don't think I have ever eaten *half*
a banana. Once I open one I assume I have to /consume all the calories
in it/".
Who does?
Anyone who attempts a calorie or carb or protein diet might.
MickeyMoop
2011-09-17 13:50:06 UTC
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I am conditioned to love the very bloody sight of Florence the Machine.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-17 14:43:48 UTC
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I am conditioned to love the very bloody sight of Florence the Machine.
Excellent!

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Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-17 14:52:33 UTC
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http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
You are missing nothing, the 2PD OMER is as simple as it appears. Is it
news? Truth is simple but often overlooked especially when it confronts
a supersized, highly conditioned, brainwashed populace.
There are people who have trouble understanding the concept of eating
too much makes you fat? Or are there people who are in a state of
continual denial of this thermodynamic fact?

Two pounds is the thermodynamic equilibrium?
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MU
2011-09-17 16:22:20 UTC
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http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
You are missing nothing, the 2PD OMER is as simple as it appears. Is it
news? Truth is simple but often overlooked especially when it confronts
a supersized, highly conditioned, brainwashed populace.
There are people who have trouble understanding the concept of eating
too much makes you fat? Or are there people who are in a state of
continual denial of this thermodynamic fact?
More the latter I would assert. Consider the amount of press that fast
food gets today (bad), mirrored by ads such as Welch's grape "family
owned farms" (good) and hundreds of other calorie-based, ingredient
based and other food related media blitzes.

It would be incredibly difficult not to have gained the simplest of
educations that at some point overconsumption results in obesity.
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Two pounds is the thermodynamic equilibrium?
It is the average amount of food of which a normally healthy person
gains no weight and will lose to a proper body weight. You will
eventually stabilize at your proper weight and with minor fluctuations,
remain there.

The 2lb/day is important not to exceed with any regularity if at all.
Your body, particularly your stomach size, will become comfortable at
that amount and become uncomfortable eating larger quantities.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-17 16:52:13 UTC
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http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
You are missing nothing, the 2PD OMER is as simple as it appears. Is it
news? Truth is simple but often overlooked especially when it confronts
a supersized, highly conditioned, brainwashed populace.
There are people who have trouble understanding the concept of eating
too much makes you fat? Or are there people who are in a state of
continual denial of this thermodynamic fact?
More the latter I would assert. Consider the amount of press that fast
food gets today (bad), mirrored by ads such as Welch's grape "family
owned farms" (good) and hundreds of other calorie-based, ingredient
based and other food related media blitzes.
It would be incredibly difficult not to have gained the simplest of
educations that at some point overconsumption results in obesity.
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Two pounds is the thermodynamic equilibrium?
It is the average amount of food of which a normally healthy person
gains no weight and will lose to a proper body weight. You will
eventually stabilize at your proper weight and with minor fluctuations,
remain there.
The 2lb/day is important not to exceed with any regularity if at all.
Your body, particularly your stomach size, will become comfortable at
that amount and become uncomfortable eating larger quantities.
How did this get crossposted into alt.movies.kubrick?
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MU
2011-09-17 17:17:36 UTC
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http://heartmdphd.com/BeHealthier
Am I missing something? Don't overeat, that's the message? This is news?
You are missing nothing, the 2PD OMER is as simple as it appears. Is it
news? Truth is simple but often overlooked especially when it confronts
a supersized, highly conditioned, brainwashed populace.
There are people who have trouble understanding the concept of eating
too much makes you fat? Or are there people who are in a state of
continual denial of this thermodynamic fact?
More the latter I would assert. Consider the amount of press that fast
food gets today (bad), mirrored by ads such as Welch's grape "family
owned farms" (good) and hundreds of other calorie-based, ingredient
based and other food related media blitzes.
It would be incredibly difficult not to have gained the simplest of
educations that at some point overconsumption results in obesity.
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Two pounds is the thermodynamic equilibrium?
It is the average amount of food of which a normally healthy person
gains no weight and will lose to a proper body weight. You will
eventually stabilize at your proper weight and with minor fluctuations,
remain there.
The 2lb/day is important not to exceed with any regularity if at all.
Your body, particularly your stomach size, will become comfortable at
that amount and become uncomfortable eating larger quantities.
How did this get crossposted into alt.movies.kubrick?
I made an analogy using Alex DeLarge from Clockwork Orange as a
conditioned individual as most people, certainly in the US, are
conditioned to overeat, waste not, etc. Alex' conditioning was both
artificial and environmental. So it is with overeating.

Let me make another analogy. Gluttony is a sin, a malady that only gets
worse the more often it is practiced. Could we not say the same thing
about Alex and violence - and Alex and nonviolence after his
MKUltra-like experiences?

Same is true of Jack Torrance, pedophilia and alcoholism. Kubrick often
highlights human misery and its abuse with the heightening of that
abusive action. Conditioning is just that, it increases ones abilities
and appetites whether it be a 25K, supersizing your MacMeal or romp in
the sack with a 9 year old.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 11:29:16 UTC
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I made an analogy using Alex DeLarge from Clockwork Orange as a
conditioned individual as most people, certainly in the US, are
conditioned to overeat, waste not, etc. Alex' conditioning was both
artificial and environmental. So it is with overeating.
Few understand this indoctrination, more on this later.
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Let me make another analogy. Gluttony is a sin, a malady that only gets
worse the more often it is practiced. Could we not say the same thing
about Alex and violence - and Alex and nonviolence after his
MKUltra-like experiences?
You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Post by MU
Same is true of Jack Torrance, pedophilia and alcoholism. Kubrick often
highlights human misery and its abuse with the heightening of that
abusive action. Conditioning is just that, it increases ones abilities
and appetites whether it be a 25K, supersizing your MacMeal or romp in
the sack with a 9 year old.
Kubrick's symbolic encoding operated on a deliberate level of complexity
that is almost unheard of, even in the history of the arts, and is
comparative to the skills of an advanced mathematician. Yer preachin' to
the priest the choir is upstairs.
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MU
2011-09-18 12:27:40 UTC
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You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.

If you truly understand these and classified operations, then you will
know that the discussion of classified intelligence is unlawful, illegal
and may find you, if you do not mind my quoting Kubrick/G. Sgt. Hartman
"in a world of shit".
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 13:57:32 UTC
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You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
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If you truly understand these and classified operations, then you will
know that the discussion of classified intelligence is unlawful, illegal
and may find you, if you do not mind my quoting Kubrick/G. Sgt. Hartman
"in a world of shit".
This a threat?
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MU
2011-09-18 14:06:30 UTC
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You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
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If you truly understand these and classified operations, then you will
know that the discussion of classified intelligence is unlawful, illegal
and may find you, if you do not mind my quoting Kubrick/G. Sgt. Hartman
"in a world of shit".
This a threat?
Mr. Giarmo, if you are threatened by the truth then yes. If you discuss
classified information, absolutely yes. I would assume you know that
since you hint at an understanding if not a participation in such
matters.

The Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools
Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 is /very/
liberally applied and in the past, before it, liberal application
criminal prosecutions of near-treasonous actions were liberally applied.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 14:09:11 UTC
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You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
Yer callin' me a liar? I was there, I know what I saw and what I
participated in. Yer callin' me out as a liar?
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MU
2011-09-18 14:55:01 UTC
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You wanna talk false flag and USGV ops? No you don't. Not with me.
Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
Yer callin' me a liar? I was there, I know what I saw and what I
participated in. Yer callin' me out as a liar?
I accept that you are telling the truth. I also accept OP Montauk as it
fits mortise to tendon with vetted public information supplanted by
reliable private discussion of which I am privy. Nonetheless it's your
Camp Hero and your knife.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 15:41:21 UTC
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Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
Yer callin' me a liar? I was there, I know what I saw and what I
participated in. Yer callin' me out as a liar?
I accept that you are telling the truth. I also accept OP Montauk
PROJECT Montauk.
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as it fits mortise to tendon with vetted public information supplanted
by reliable private discussion of which I am privy. Nonetheless it's
your Camp Hero
Trying to impress me?
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and your knife.
It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted . MKUltra guy are you Mu then activities
in other covert mind control operations fit PM.
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2011-09-18 15:54:20 UTC
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Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
Yer callin' me a liar? I was there, I know what I saw and what I
participated in. Yer callin' me out as a liar?
I accept that you are telling the truth. I also accept OP Montauk
PROJECT Montauk.
Post by MU
as it fits mortise to tendon with vetted public information supplanted
by reliable private discussion of which I am privy. Nonetheless it's
your Camp Hero
Trying to impress me?
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and your knife.
It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.

I have little to no compunction in stating that the evidence of ET
intervention in our universe, Earth in particular, and ours in theirs,
is undeniable.
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MKUltra guy are you Mu...
Directly, yes.
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then activities in other covert mind control operations fit PM.
There are similarities and as many differences. USAF ran Montauk with
ONI, MKUltra ( II to be precise) was Army/Company. These two branches of
the service have differeing agendas.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 16:36:40 UTC
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It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
You remotely viewed Montauk? I larf at you.
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I have little to no compunction in stating that the evidence of ET
intervention in our universe, Earth in particular, and ours in theirs,
is undeniable.
Seen a few reptilians, have you?
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
MKUltra guy are you Mu...
Directly, yes.
Sure.
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
then activities in other covert mind control operations fit PM.
There are similarities and as many differences. USAF ran Montauk with
ONI, MKUltra ( II to be precise) was Army/Company. These two branches of
the service have differeing agendas.
You act the good act, mu.
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2011-09-18 17:40:55 UTC
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It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
You remotely viewed Montauk? I larf at you.
No. Others I know, yes.
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Post by MU
I have little to no compunction in stating that the evidence of ET
intervention in our universe, Earth in particular, and ours in theirs,
is undeniable.
Seen a few reptilians, have you?
If you are asking whether or not I have been in contact with ETs, that's
a very easy question to answer.
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MKUltra guy are you Mu...
Directly, yes.
Sure.
No need of MU to discuss if you believe I am lying.
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then activities in other covert mind control operations fit PM.
There are similarities and as many differences. USAF ran Montauk with
ONI, MKUltra ( II to be precise) was Army/Company. These two branches of
the service have differeing agendas.
You act the good act, mu.
No acts I assure you.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 18:57:57 UTC
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It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
You remotely viewed Montauk? I larf at you.
No. Others I know, yes.
That's not what you said or intimated, mate, come clean, will ya?
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2011-09-18 18:59:29 UTC
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It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
You remotely viewed Montauk? I larf at you.
No. Others I know, yes.
That's not what you said or intimated, mate, come clean, will ya?
Your misinterpretation, later "cleaned" by my above comment, leaves one
to understand the truth.

Truth is simple.
Mr. Millican
2011-09-18 23:21:07 UTC
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It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
You remotely viewed Montauk? I larf at you.
No. Others I know, yes.
That's not what you said or intimated, mate, come clean, will ya?
Your misinterpretation, later "cleaned" by my above comment, leaves one
to understand the truth.
Does MU ever take stock of the fact that MU is incapable of getting
along with anyone?

That if MU were a mature adult in a position of importance that involved
national security, MU would keep his yap shut about it instead of trying
to show it off?
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Truth is simple.
So Andrew Chung has written thousands of times, while clearly
demonstrating that what he considers to be truth, everyone else has
always recognized as silly troll bullshit.
Z
2011-09-19 04:52:46 UTC
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That if MU were a mature adult in a position of importance that involved
national security, MU would keep his yap shut about it instead of trying
to show it off?
Exactly. We live near a major military base and know a lot of high
ranking military personnel.
One friend has always been evasive about what he does "I don't like to
talk about work". One day while he was conversing with someone else
from the base who had just met him, he said something short and
cryptic and the new guy said, "Oh one of *those* jobs". It was then
that I realized this guy was in secret ops.

People who really are in secret ops, don't go around boasting about it
or even allude to it, even to close friends. They don't make
statements like "Osama bin Laden was killed back in 01, but that's all
I can say". Someone who's really in secret ops, wouldn't say anything
whatsoever, period. Not unless they were incredibly irresponsible and
immature. And people like that don't last long, before they're drummed
out.

MU tries to be as much of an embarrassment to the military and Chung
tries to be to Christianity.
IOW, they're both phonies. Two peas in a pod. The same person.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-19 04:52:50 UTC
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Does MU ever take stock of the fact that MU is incapable of getting
along with anyone?
He's a fraud and a misfit. I wondered.
Post by Mr. Millican
That if MU were a mature adult in a position of importance that involved
national security, MU would keep his yap shut about it instead of trying
to show it off?
This. Proof. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Z
2011-09-19 06:59:33 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Post by Mr. Millican
Does MU ever take stock of the fact that MU is incapable of getting
along with anyone?
He's a fraud and a misfit. I wondered.
Oh, yes. Just do a Google groups search in sci.med.cardiology with any
of the following combination's:

MU + Troll
MU + Fraud
MU + Liar
MU + Sock-puppet
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
This. Proof. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's certainly more substantial than anything you'll ever get from MU.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-19 10:02:45 UTC
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Post by Z
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Post by Mr. Millican
Does MU ever take stock of the fact that MU is incapable of getting
along with anyone?
He's a fraud and a misfit. I wondered.
Oh, yes. Just do a Google groups search in sci.med.cardiology with any
MU + Troll
MU + Fraud
MU + Liar
MU + Sock-puppet
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
This. Proof. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's certainly more substantial than anything you'll ever get from MU.
hehe your "MU" is in for a big surprise today. I grew up in Atlanta and
I know who "MU" is.
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MU
2011-09-19 11:33:32 UTC
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hehe your "MU" is in for a big surprise today. I grew up in Atlanta and
I know who "MU" is.
Grew up in Atlanta? As I am sure you know lol I did not. To be precise,
you did not grow up in Atlanta as much as you attended school in one of
its suburbs. Duluth I believe <grin>

Be that as it may, don't push your luck, you have already violated
classified information protocols and I had a very tiring weekend.

If you get my drift...<no grin>
Z
2011-09-19 12:12:04 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
hehe your "MU" is in for a big surprise today. I grew up in Atlanta and
I know who "MU" is.
Grew up in Atlanta? As I am sure you know lol I did not. To be precise,
you did not grow up in Atlanta as much as you attended school in one of
its suburbs. Duluth I believe <grin>
That doesn't change the possibility of him knowing who MU is.
Post by MU
Be that as it may, don't push your luck, you have already violated
classified information protocols and I had a very tiring weekend.
If you get my drift...<no grin>
Uh oh, girlyman MU sounds nervous.

If MU had a penny for every Usenet threat he's carried out, and there
are dozens of them, MU would be penniless.

It's always fun to watch when a fraud gets slammed by the real
mccoy :-)

<grabs popcorn, puts feet up>
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-19 12:18:02 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
hehe your "MU" is in for a big surprise today. I grew up in Atlanta and
I know who "MU" is.
Grew up in Atlanta? As I am sure you know lol I did not. To be precise,
you did not grow up in Atlanta as much as you attended school in one of
its suburbs. Duluth I believe <grin>
Be that as it may, don't push your luck, you have already violated
classified information protocols and I had a very tiring weekend.
If you get my drift...<no grin>
I have to get to work but I will have a very special surprise for you
*Courtney* during my lunch. You've fucked with the wrong guy this time
*Courtney*.
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Jeanne Calment of France
2011-09-19 13:02:48 UTC
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If you get my drift...<no grin>
Yeah, it smells like bullshit. No, wait, correction; chickenshit.

MU. is. toast.
MickeyMoop
2011-09-25 22:59:03 UTC
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you there, move along...aren't you supposed to be morte?
MickeyMoop
2011-09-28 17:46:11 UTC
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Mme. Calment, if I may be so toast-posty, morte or not to be muerted, that was the question. 27,000+ posts and no free cherry pie for the first droog to post number 28,000. {and no eyes frying droogette behind door number three; most unsat...}
Z
2011-09-20 08:56:37 UTC
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Post by MU
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects
What an amazing coincidence, so has Courtney Brown!


Z
2011-09-20 08:45:42 UTC
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Mr. Giarmo, anyone can discuss un/declassified intelligence operations.
I have been involved in more than I can count.
Montauk. Declassified?
As in NJ I presume? You can't declassify something that doesn't exist.
<grin>
Yer callin' me a liar? I was there, I know what I saw and what I
participated in. Yer callin' me out as a liar?
I accept that you are telling the truth. I also accept OP Montauk
PROJECT Montauk.
Post by MU
as it fits mortise to tendon with vetted public information supplanted
by reliable private discussion of which I am privy. Nonetheless it's
your Camp Hero
Trying to impress me?
Post by MU
and your knife.
It's over your head anyway. FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no
idea what that means - The basis of the Project is mind and reality
control and children abducted .
Ill take you one further. It has been my pleasure to have experienced
remote viewing of several mil-intel projects of which Project Montauk
was one. These are civilian hence no classification.
I have little to no compunction in stating that the evidence of ET
intervention in our universe, Earth in particular, and ours in theirs,
is undeniable.
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
MKUltra guy are you Mu...
Directly, yes.
Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
then activities in other covert mind control operations fit PM.
There are similarities and as many differences. USAF ran Montauk with
ONI, MKUltra ( II to be precise) was Army/Company. These two branches of
the service have differeing agendas.
As someone who is a personal friend of Art Bell, and who has worked
for Nellis Air Force Base and "Area 51" since 1968, let me just say,
Bwahahahahah. What a load.
Tom
2011-09-23 18:12:42 UTC
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Post by Z
As someone who is a personal friend of Art Bell, and who has worked
for Nellis Air Force Base and "Area 51" since 1968,
*BWAHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
dr. Raj
2011-09-23 23:54:16 UTC
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Post by Z
As someone who is a personal friend of Art Bell, and who has worked
for Nellis Air Force Base and "Area 51" since 1968,
*BWAHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Oh it's true. Z was closely involved with the MLAK/JXP project. Never
heard of it? That's how top secret it is. Makes remote viewing
conversations with Jesus Christ while negotiating with reptilians,
quite mediocre in comparison.
MU
2011-09-18 19:12:55 UTC
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FYI I saw the 5th floor down - yer have no idea what that means
A simple Google does.
- The basis of the Project is mind and reality control and children
abducted .
Montauk/Cape Hero had many, many aspects to it. Which was the primary is
a matter of outlook, personal preference or agenda.

Honestly, Montauk doesn't interest me.
Whosoever
2011-09-18 15:05:04 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Yer callin' me a liar?
Yes, he is. Anyone who disagrees with him is a liar in his eyes.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 15:43:03 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Yer callin' me a liar?
Yes, he is. Anyone who disagrees with him is a liar in his eyes.
This Mu, for real or not? And you? Who are you?
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2011-09-18 15:47:04 UTC
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Post by Thomas J. Giarmo
Yer callin' me a liar?
Yes, he is. Anyone who disagrees with him is a liar in his eyes.
And you? Who are you?
This ought to be good. lol
Z
2011-09-20 08:40:56 UTC
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Yer callin' me a liar?
Yes, he is. Anyone who disagrees with him is a liar in his eyes.
And you? Who are you?
This ought to be good. lol
Silly and predictable as it is, it's a fairly entertaining show down.
Taking into consideration of the fact that Usenet offers mighty slim
pickings these days.
Whosoever
2011-09-18 15:02:51 UTC
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Post by MU
If you truly understand these and classified operations, then you will
know that the discussion of classified intelligence is unlawful, illegal
and may find you, if you do not mind my quoting Kubrick/G. Sgt. Hartman
"in a world of shit".
This a threat?
Yes. It was. He's been making them for years.
Of course if you try to pin him down on it, you'll just get more
smoke.
Thomas J. Giarmo
2011-09-18 15:44:08 UTC
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Post by MU
If you truly understand these and classified operations, then you will
know that the discussion of classified intelligence is unlawful, illegal
and may find you, if you do not mind my quoting Kubrick/G. Sgt. Hartman
"in a world of shit".
This a threat?
Yes. It was. He's been making them for years. Of course if you try to
pin him down on it, you'll just get more smoke.
I'll pin him and make the fool out of him if he fucks with me.
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MU
2011-09-18 12:39:10 UTC
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Post by MU
I made an analogy using Alex DeLarge from Clockwork Orange as a
conditioned individual as most people, certainly in the US, are
conditioned to overeat, waste not, etc. Alex' conditioning was both
artificial and environmental. So it is with overeating.
Let me make another analogy. Gluttony is a sin, a malady that only gets
worse the more often it is practiced. Could we not say the same thing
about Alex and violence - and Alex and nonviolence after his
MKUltra-like experiences?
Same is true of Jack Torrance, pedophilia and alcoholism. Kubrick often
highlights human misery and its abuse with the heightening of that
abusive action. Conditioning is just that, it increases ones abilities
and appetites whether it be a 25K, supersizing your MacMeal or romp in
the sack with a 9 year old.
Kubrick's symbolic encoding operated on a deliberate level of complexity
that is almost unheard of, even in the history of the arts, and is
comparative to the skills of an advanced mathematician. Yer preachin' to
the priest the choir is upstairs.
I am preaching to both.

As Kubrick's symbologies and message delivery is missed by the vast
majority of the movie viewing public, so it is with the exquisite art of
population mind control. They do not understand it and if they did, they
might not or could not remove themselves from it.

Conditioning the population to overconsumption is a devilish, extremely
well understood phenomena by those who deliver it ala Kubrick. Rarely is
any image or message unintentional, done by mistake alone; it's quite a
science.
MickeyMoop
2011-09-17 18:12:48 UTC
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Nothing human is alien to the alt.musicoftheKubrickspheres.Genus
MickeyMoop
2011-09-20 18:27:01 UTC
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Art Bell's great! Havana's great! Old man Roth would never go to Area 51 but Johnny Ola told me about this great nightclub featuring Epsilon Halavahi dancers...
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