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Klep, please don't...
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Wordsmith
2008-10-10 21:40:52 UTC
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...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!

NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!

Your friend,

Wordsmith : )

PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!

Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Don Stockbauer
2008-10-11 01:43:23 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Wordsmith, no use bothering to tell them that. You're stereotyped
here forever, as I am. One run in with Reid and that was it. Yes, I
have behaved shamefully here since then, but I reasoned why not have
some fun with people who are incapable of understanding what Kubrick
had to tell us, just like squirmy little garden slugs crawling up a
Monolith, no chance to learn from it. But that's OK. These parties
will dominate AMK until something offs them, like maybe cancer or AIDS
or suicide. It' all so unfortunate.
Wordsmith
2008-10-11 04:54:44 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Wordsmith, no use bothering to tell them that.  You're stereotyped
here forever, as I am.  One run in with Reid and that was it.  Yes, I
have behaved shamefully here since then, but I reasoned why not have
some fun with people who are incapable of understanding what Kubrick
had to tell us, just like squirmy little garden slugs crawling up a
Monolith, no chance to learn from it.  But that's OK.  These parties
will dominate AMK until something offs them, like maybe cancer or AIDS
or suicide.  It' all so unfortunate.
You're a stereotype! I'm a stereotype! Icky's a stereotype!
Matt's a stereotype! Boaz is a stereotype! Klep's a stereotype!
And Padraig...well, um...Padraig is Padraig!

W : )
ichorwhip
2008-10-11 04:56:39 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Wordsmith, no use bothering to tell them that.  You're stereotyped
here forever, as I am.  One run in with Reid and that was it.  Yes, I
have behaved shamefully here since then, but I reasoned why not have
some fun with people who are incapable of understanding what Kubrick
had to tell us, just like squirmy little garden slugs crawling up a
Monolith, no chance to learn from it.  But that's OK.  These parties
will dominate AMK until something offs them, like maybe cancer or AIDS
or suicide.  It' all so unfortunate.
You're a stereotype! I'm a stereotype! Icky's a stereotype!
Matt's a stereotype! Boaz is a stereotype! Klep's a stereotype!
And Padraig...well, um...Padraig is Padraig!
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Imposter!
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-11 05:02:02 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Wordsmith, no use bothering to tell them that.  You're stereotyped
here forever, as I am.  One run in with Reid and that was it.  Yes, I
have behaved shamefully here since then, but I reasoned why not have
some fun with people who are incapable of understanding what Kubrick
had to tell us, just like squirmy little garden slugs crawling up a
Monolith, no chance to learn from it.  But that's OK.  These parties
will dominate AMK until something offs them, like maybe cancer or AIDS
or suicide.  It' all so unfortunate.
You're a stereotype! I'm a stereotype! Icky's a stereotype!
Matt's a stereotype! Boaz is a stereotype! Klep's a stereotype!
And Padraig...well, um...Padraig is Padraig!
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Time for meds now Ichor. the stress must be getting to you.

dc
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-11 02:05:06 UTC
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...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok. Gotcha. Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered I DID have some cash on
me, on the car seat. If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!


dc
ichorwhip
2008-10-11 03:20:31 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
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You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures. If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him. I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...

"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-11 04:11:56 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
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You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"- Hide quoted text -
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What are yout talking about?

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA1kQOO0yn_gp2tiDKbEn1fjJfYkQTWXi1Vg

Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.

But in the mean time let's hear your theory?


dc
ichorwhip
2008-10-11 04:53:09 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
dc- Hide quoted text -
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Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups. Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history. Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit. Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this. He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style. The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve. Again a totally fake post. It can be done,
and it is being done. Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains... Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not? If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Wordsmith
2008-10-11 05:30:37 UTC
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Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"- Hide quoted text -
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What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
dc- Hide quoted text -
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Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups.  Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history.  Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit.  Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this.  He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style.  The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve.  Again a totally fake post.  It can be done,
and it is being done.   Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains...  Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not?  If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Word of honor: I *did* initiate this thread. And everything I said in
the
opening post is true. It all happened, even though I encased the facts
in a heavy layer of sarcasm to make a point: I am a poor but generous
person who shares...even with black people. "Out of character"???
Let's see if I can contextualize this properly: do you mean "out of
character" in the "kind to other races" sense, or in the "that's not
the semantics and syntax Wordsy would use" sense, or both?
I daresay I am capable of being kind to people *and* able to morph
my style to suit a particular situation. Guilty on both counts. We can
now return to our regularly scheduled flame session.

W : (
ichorwhip
2008-10-11 06:02:16 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
Post by ichorwhip
Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"- Hide quoted text -
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What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
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Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups.  Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history.  Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit.  Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this.  He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style.  The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve.  Again a totally fake post.  It can be done,
and it is being done.   Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains...  Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not?  If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Word of honor: I *did* initiate this thread. And everything I said in
the
opening post is true. It all happened, even though I encased the facts
in a heavy layer of sarcasm to make a point: I am a poor but generous
person who shares...even with black people. "Out of character"???
Let's see if I can contextualize this properly: do you mean "out of
character" in the "kind to other races" sense, or in the "that's not
the semantics and syntax Wordsy would use" sense, or both?
In the latter sense, and this too seems not like your usual tone or
style.
Post by Wordsmith
I daresay I am capable of being kind to people *and* able to morph
my style to suit a particular situation. Guilty on both counts. We can
now return to our regularly scheduled flame session.
W : (
Well I'll stand corrected then. I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth. I'm still not 100% satisfied that this is on the
level.
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-11 07:13:32 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
Post by ichorwhip
Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
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You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
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What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
dc- Hide quoted text -
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Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups.  Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history.  Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit.  Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this.  He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style.  The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve.  Again a totally fake post.  It can be done,
and it is being done.   Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains...  Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not?  If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Word of honor: I *did* initiate this thread. And everything I said in
the
opening post is true. It all happened, even though I encased the facts
in a heavy layer of sarcasm to make a point: I am a poor but generous
person who shares...even with black people. "Out of character"???
Let's see if I can contextualize this properly: do you mean "out of
character" in the "kind to other races" sense, or in the "that's not
the semantics and syntax Wordsy would use" sense, or both?
In the latter sense, and this too seems not like your usual tone or
style.
Post by Wordsmith
I daresay I am capable of being kind to people *and* able to morph
my style to suit a particular situation. Guilty on both counts. We can
now return to our regularly scheduled flame session.
W : (
Well I'll stand corrected then.  I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.  I'm still not 100% satisfied that this is on the
level.
You aren't level Ichowhip and you think the world is crooked.


dc
ichorwhip
2008-10-11 20:58:27 UTC
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Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
Post by ichorwhip
Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
dc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
"piop"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
dc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups.  Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history.  Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit.  Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this.  He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style.  The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve.  Again a totally fake post.  It can be done,
and it is being done.   Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains...  Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not?  If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Word of honor: I *did* initiate this thread. And everything I said in
the
opening post is true. It all happened, even though I encased the facts
in a heavy layer of sarcasm to make a point: I am a poor but generous
person who shares...even with black people. "Out of character"???
Let's see if I can contextualize this properly: do you mean "out of
character" in the "kind to other races" sense, or in the "that's not
the semantics and syntax Wordsy would use" sense, or both?
In the latter sense, and this too seems not like your usual tone or
style.
Post by Wordsmith
I daresay I am capable of being kind to people *and* able to morph
my style to suit a particular situation. Guilty on both counts. We can
now return to our regularly scheduled flame session.
W : (
Well I'll stand corrected then.  I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.  I'm still not 100% satisfied that this is on the
level.
You aren't level Ichowhip and you think the world is crooked.
dc-
I think you are a vacuous gash who needs to be red-flagged.
Bill Reid
2008-10-12 16:50:10 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.
Well, sure, I had TWO freaks forge my name to several posts here,
you remember that, because you claimed it didn't happen, even though
it was obvious.

And who was the most likely culprit for several of the fraudulent
posts? Oh, yeah, it was the useless idiotic boring commie Irish
constant name-changing freak "Harrumph Boogely", who seems
to be a heroic role model for you...

And the other? Well that would be "Lowbrow", the senile idiot
from the stocks group who thought it would be fun to not only cross-post
his off-topic moronitude here, but forge my name as well.

Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
(like you and your buddy "Honey Blehly" he thinks he can just say
and do anything he wants when he's mad on the Internet) in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.

I'm asking for $4million in the complaint, but realistically, I'll be
lucky to collect four pennies from him...but at least I'll have that
particular record straight with a legal record of his misdeeds, and
can move on to other miscreants...

---
William Ernest "Kinda Like A Straight 'Perry Mason'" Reid
Wordsmith
2008-10-12 21:26:05 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.
Well, sure, I had TWO freaks forge my name to several posts here,
you remember that, because you claimed it didn't happen, even though
it was obvious.
And who was the most likely culprit for several of the fraudulent
posts?  Oh, yeah, it was the useless idiotic boring commie Irish
constant name-changing freak "Harrumph Boogely", who seems
to be a heroic role model for you...
And the other?  Well that would be "Lowbrow", the senile idiot
from the stocks group who thought it would be fun to not only cross-post
his off-topic moronitude here, but forge my name as well.
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
(like you and your buddy "Honey Blehly" he thinks he can just say
and do anything he wants when he's mad on the Internet) in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
I'm asking for $4million in the complaint, but realistically, I'll be
lucky to collect four pennies from him...but at least I'll have that
particular record straight with a legal record of his misdeeds, and
can move on to other miscreants...
---
William Ernest "Kinda Like A Straight 'Perry Mason'" Reid
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.

W
Bill Reid
2008-10-12 22:33:16 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?

So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million. I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.

But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more. I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".

This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.

But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").

The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons. The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.

Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.

---
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
Wordsmith
2008-10-12 22:50:51 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million.  I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more.  I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").
The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons.  The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.
Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.
---
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
All right, Bill, ya got me. My "all over them" would consist of
beating them down with my own brand of sarcasm and reporting
them to Google...which would do nothing. Good luck with the
suit. If you've truly been harmed, go get 'em. Alas, lowest
common denominatorism is here to stay.

W : (
ichorwhip
2008-10-12 23:56:33 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million.  I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was. You don't know the first thing about the law. I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say. You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Post by Bill Reid
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more.  I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
Complete garbage from the master of fakery. You're bitterness toward
your better is showing. Just because I've entirely humiliated your
harassing fumbling stupid ass more times than I count do you say
this. I will always be your master, and you should bow in my
presence. I am clearly better than you in every way.

Posh? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
29 years on a 30 year mortgage? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").
This is harassment, and it's against the rules!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons.  The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.
And now for the IMAX PROJECTION FINALE! GWAHAHAHAHA!!!! You are a
case-book study in Usenet lunacy I swear! Someone could make a career
out of studying you. Maybe your Medicaid will actually pay for it,
who knows?
Post by Bill Reid
Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.
You shouldn't want to join a club that would have you as a member...
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
Hey Reidiot® don't forget to leave your "hollow rubber prop cane" at
home when you go to court. Your magic tricks won't work there anyway,
and they may tase you.

"Please don't take up the court's time with technicalities."
i
"piop"
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-13 01:37:46 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million.  I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.  You don't know the first thing about the law. I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.  You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Post by Bill Reid
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more.  I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
Complete garbage from the master of fakery.  You're bitterness toward
your better is showing.  Just because I've entirely humiliated your
harassing fumbling stupid ass more times than I count do you say
this.  I will always be your master, and you should bow in my
presence.  I am clearly better than you in every way.
Posh? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
29 years on a 30 year mortgage?  GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").
This is harassment, and it's against the rules!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons.  The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.
And now for the IMAX PROJECTION FINALE!  GWAHAHAHAHA!!!!  You are a
case-book study in Usenet lunacy I swear!  Someone could make a career
out of studying you.  Maybe your Medicaid will actually pay for it,
who knows?
Post by Bill Reid
Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.
You shouldn't want to join a club that would have you as a member...
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
Hey Reidiot® don't forget to leave your "hollow rubber prop cane" at
home when you go to court.  Your magic tricks won't work there anyway,
and they may tase you.
"Please don't take up the court's time with technicalities."
i
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ichorwhip
2008-10-13 03:25:48 UTC
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Post by kelpzoidzl
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million.  I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.  You don't know the first thing about the law. I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.  You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Post by Bill Reid
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more.  I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
Complete garbage from the master of fakery.  You're bitterness toward
your better is showing.  Just because I've entirely humiliated your
harassing fumbling stupid ass more times than I count do you say
this.  I will always be your master, and you should bow in my
presence.  I am clearly better than you in every way.
Posh? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
29 years on a 30 year mortgage?  GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").
This is harassment, and it's against the rules!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons.  The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.
And now for the IMAX PROJECTION FINALE!  GWAHAHAHAHA!!!!  You are a
case-book study in Usenet lunacy I swear!  Someone could make a career
out of studying you.  Maybe your Medicaid will actually pay for it,
who knows?
Post by Bill Reid
Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.
You shouldn't want to join a club that would have you as a member...
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
Hey Reidiot® don't forget to leave your "hollow rubber prop cane" at
home when you go to court.  Your magic tricks won't work there anyway,
and they may tase you.
"Please don't take up the court's time with technicalities."
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something funny...
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Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
Post by Wordsmith
If anyone ever spoofed my identity, I'd be the first to be all over
them.
All over them how, and what do you think you would accomplish,
except even more identity spoofing, stalking, libel, terroristic threats,
etc.?
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million.  I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.  You don't know the first thing about the law. I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.  You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Post by Bill Reid
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more.  I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
Complete garbage from the master of fakery.  You're bitterness toward
your better is showing.  Just because I've entirely humiliated your
harassing fumbling stupid ass more times than I count do you say
this.  I will always be your master, and you should bow in my
presence.  I am clearly better than you in every way.
Posh? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
29 years on a 30 year mortgage?  GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
But I really don't think even that would change anything, because
trash begets trash and trash clumps together; I think anybody and
everybody (if anybody) in his life is human garbage like him, and
would probably only encourage his bad behavior (similar to the
way "Bore-Ass" high-fived him for wishing death on me because
I didn't like "Dr. Zhivago").
This is harassment, and it's against the rules!
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
The truth: it's the tragedy of the commons.  The lowest common
denominator has taken control of Usenet, which used to be a forum
for scientists, engineers, etc., but is now the latest dumping ground
for the mentally-ill hate-filled loser misfits that have no other place
to babble their idiotic insanities.
And now for the IMAX PROJECTION FINALE!  GWAHAHAHAHA!!!!  You are a
case-book study in Usenet lunacy I swear!  Someone could make a career
out of studying you.  Maybe your Medicaid will actually pay for it,
who knows?
Post by Bill Reid
Really, the only real solution is just to let the mongoloid babies
have their bottle, just let Usenet become totally the land of whack
jobs and spammers, and real people will have to go back to the old
style of human interaction, which at least had exclusivity as its
cheif merit...a club without entry criteria is worse than worthless.
You shouldn't want to join a club that would have you as a member...
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Climbing The Velvet Rope" Reid
Hey Reidiot® don't forget to leave your "hollow rubber prop cane" at
home when you go to court.  Your magic tricks won't work there anyway,
and they may tase you.
"Please don't take up the court's time with technicalities."
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2008-10-13 04:42:38 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million. I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.
Does anybody have an "Icky-To-English" decoder ring that can
resolve the totured syntax of that non-sentence?

The only thing I got was something about "totally destroy your
case". What do you know about what would "totally destroy" my
case? Are you a lawyer? Do you have some special knowledge
of the law, have you researched case law on this particular topic,
been involved in a lot of legal proceedings?

If not, if you can't provide some backing for your poorly-worded
assertion, it would seem that you are WRONG yet again. But I'm
sure you'll quickly admit it, since:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by ichorwhip
You don't know the first thing about the law.
How do you know that?
Post by ichorwhip
I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.
How did you arrive at that conclusion? Can you back that up
with posts of mine that have been factually incorrect on issues
of law?

If not, it would appear that you are once again wrong. But I'm
sure you will quickly admit it, because:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008

(Just for the record, I actually HAVE made factual misstatements
of law several times here and in other groups, I am NOT a lawyer, but
I'm quite sure you will never be able to back up YOUR claim that
YOU "know" what they are.)
Post by ichorwhip
You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Never widipedia, but I do avail myself of the almost complete
availability of the legal codes of all 50 states and the federal laws
on the Internet these days, along with all the local court rules
and mandatory judicial forms in fillable PDF formats. Saves a
few of those 15 minute trips to the downtown law library, but
I still need to make a few, because some of the case law is
more completely covered in proprietary resources like WestLaw...

As far as scaring people, when "Lowbrow" REALLY stepped
over the line, before I even read his libel, several OTHER people,
some of whom had legal experience up to the Supreme Court
level, immediately warned him he was subject to civil suit for
his behavior. The idiot huffed and bluffed for few days about
how he would humiliate me in a lawsuit, but finally retracted
his libel and admitted it was completely false and only said
it because he was angry...

...only to repeat it again DOZENS of times every time he
got all red-faced in the next few months!!! This is what ensures
that the judge (or jury) will throw the book at him!!! THAT'S
the WORST thing you can do when you libel somebody...

Sorry, my little "Quote Monkey", I have sued several people
in all types of courts, and have usually "won" but lost a few
here and there as well, and as such I'm very much a realist
when it comes to my chances of sustaining...and given the
fact base above, this is probably the most slam-dunk case I've
ever had, and I've had a few no-brainers...
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
But I'm a realist, I know the outcome of the $2million Internet
libel judgement: after defaulting on the lawsuit purportedly because
of a hurricane, the poverty-stricken (read: "judgement-proof" because
you can't collect a judgement from a poor person) defendant just
went right back to repeating the same libelous statements hundreds
of times more. I mean, since she will never suffer an actual negative
consequence for her despicable actions, she just keeps doing what
apparently makes her "feel good".
This is what I said about "Icky" years ago, he'll never grow up,
change his behavior, the ONLY thing that would effect a change
is his imprisonment and/or death...except POSSIBLY, just MAYBE
if he really thought his true identity was about to be exposed to
his family (if any), employer (if any), etc., it might straighten him
out, or THEY would straighten him out.
Complete garbage from the master of fakery.
Have you told people that you falsely accuse people of "fraud" and
"being a crook" and "saying the 'n-word' all the time" on the Internet?
Be honest...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! (Sorry, couldn't help it, "be
honest", sheeeesh!!!)

So you share your repeated use of the 'n-word' with people in
"real life"? Do you tell them you wish death on people because
they didn't like a movie? Do you tell them you stalk and harass
people all over the Internet? Do you use the constant vulgarities
and crude irrational speech you use here at "work", in front of
any children you may come in contact with? Do you brag about
how you mocked the "hideous nose" of a young actress AFTER
you found out she was of Jewish heritage? Do you tell them
you have repeatedly lied about your behavior and lied about other
people and broken your word multiple times?

---
William Ernest "Answer Me Dammit!!!" Reid
ichorwhip
2008-10-13 23:14:50 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million. I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.
Does anybody have an "Icky-To-English" decoder ring that can
resolve the totured syntax of that non-sentence?
GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Got you again you stupid bazzter! "Totured
syntax...." GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! you kill me!
Post by Bill Reid
The only thing I got was something about "totally destroy your
case".
Go right on and admit how poor your reading comprehension is, it's
okay... all is forgiven... GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! D'oh! Pfffft!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
 What do you know about what would "totally destroy" my
case?
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA-HA-HA!!!!!! Cough...cough!!!! Why? Looking for some
free legal advice?
Post by Bill Reid
 Are you a lawyer?
I'm not, but let's just say I'm very well connected. That's all you
need to know.

"They said you was hung!"
"And they was right!"
Post by Bill Reid
 Do you have some special knowledge
of the law,
Yes.
Post by Bill Reid
have you researched case law on this particular topic,
Yes, but maybe not as much as you, as it is a fantasy for you, much as
is your fake stock enterprise.
Post by Bill Reid
been involved in a lot of legal proceedings?
No. But, I'm ever waiting for you to make your move! So move!
Post by Bill Reid
If not, if you can't provide some backing for your poorly-worded
assertion,
But I can, and I did. What makes you think you deserve free advice
from me anyway? You who have treated me so poorly.... boooo!!!
Post by Bill Reid
it would seem that you are WRONG yet again.
And then you woke up! Your obsession with proving me wrong is never
right it seems. Fumbling idiot, the checker player at the chess
board...
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
That's right! Just prove me wrong then, and I'll get right on that!
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
You don't know the first thing about the law.
How do you know that?
Simple observation and above average reading comprehension. One
thing's for certain, if you really had a lawyer, he'd have muzzled you
a long time ago or dropped you outright if you didn't comply with his
terms for defending you. The more you run your mouth, the worse
things get for you in a litigious world. Thought you'd know that, but
nope! Does your lawyer know about all your harrassing antics on
Usenet?
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Like I'm going to waste my time explaining my
conviction to a complete brickwall of disingenuousness and obtuseness,
right....
Post by Bill Reid
 Can you back that up
with posts of mine that have been factually incorrect on issues
of law?
I'll just wait until you sue me for that.... GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
If not, it would appear that you are once again wrong.  But I'm
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Nope, wrong again, admit so sir! GWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! This is
starting to hurt!
Post by Bill Reid
(Just for the record, I actually HAVE made factual misstatements
of law several times here and in other groups, I am NOT a lawyer,
That's FO sho!
Post by Bill Reid
but
I'm quite sure you will never be able to back up YOUR claim that
YOU "know" what they are.)
I don't have to. I'm not the one bragging like a middleschooler about
how I'm suing someone for 4 meg simply to break a record and make a
moot point because someone besmirched "me" on Usenet (even though you
don't post with your real name.)
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Never widipedia, but I do avail myself of the almost complete
availability of the legal codes of all 50 states
WOW!!!! All 50 huh? GWAHAHA.... oh fuck it...
Post by Bill Reid
and the federal laws
on the Internet these days, along with all the local court rules
and mandatory judicial forms in fillable PDF formats.
Wow! Sounds really technical.... g...g...g... GUFFAW!!!!! You've got
so much time on your hands, might as well fantasize like hell with it
since payday really only comes once a month.
Post by Bill Reid
 Saves a
few of those 15 minute trips to the downtown law library, but
I still need to make a few, because some of the case law is
more completely covered in proprietary resources like WestLaw...
Whatever... keep deluding yourself if you want. I remain as
unconvinced as ever.
Post by Bill Reid
As far as scaring people, when "Lowbrow" REALLY stepped
over the line, before I even read his libel, several OTHER people,
some of whom had legal experience up to the Supreme Court
level, immediately warned him he was subject to civil suit for
his behavior.  The idiot huffed and bluffed for few days about
how he would humiliate me in a lawsuit, but finally retracted
his libel and admitted it was completely false and only said
it because he was angry...
Brownlow did you such great harm I'm sure. What did he say about you
anyway?
Post by Bill Reid
...only to repeat it again DOZENS of times every time he
got all red-faced in the next few months!!!  This is what ensures
that the judge (or jury) will throw the book at him!!!  THAT'S
the WORST thing you can do when you libel somebody...
Oh really?!! GWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Do all these GWAHAs count as
libel? I sure hope not. I may need a bailout!
Post by Bill Reid
Sorry, my little "Quote Monkey", I have sued several people
in all types of courts, and have usually "won" but lost a few
here and there as well,
Well those matters would be of public record then. Cite case and
file, and then maybe I'll start believing you, but I prolly won't just
for spite since you're so nice to me. You won't prove anything since
you're just a blowhard fake with major self-destructive tendencies,
which further delude your fragile psychological condition. We've been
through this at least a dozen times. I heard it takes a dog 600 times
to learn a new command. That's prolly a really stupid dog, but maybe
you'll fall somewhere in between that and a normal human being.
Post by Bill Reid
and as such I'm very much a realist
when it comes to my chances of sustaining...and given the
fact base above, this is probably the most slam-dunk case I've
ever had, and I've had a few no-brainers..
You are the no-brainer. You think you're in a vacuum I guess.
Post by Bill Reid
Have you told people that you falsely accuse people of "fraud" and
"being a crook" and "saying the 'n-word' all the time" on the Internet?
Be honest...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  (Sorry, couldn't help it, "be
honest", sheeeesh!!!)
Where's that decoder ring when you need it? Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
So you share your repeated use of the 'n-word' with people in
"real life"?  Do you tell them you wish death on people because
they didn't like a movie?  Do you tell them you stalk and harass
people all over the Internet?  Do you use the constant vulgarities
and crude irrational speech you use here at "work", in front of
any children you may come in contact with?  Do you brag about
how you mocked the "hideous nose" of a young actress AFTER
you found out she was of Jewish heritage?  Do you tell them
you have repeatedly lied about your behavior and lied about other
people and broken your word multiple times?
This is all you've got? You can't harass people worth a crap! Good
luck with your fake suit you fake head case. Be sure to report back
here with all the proof required in order to be believed.

One other thing, why on earth would you expect me to cooperate with
you at all? All you do is harass me and refuse to acknowledge any
answers that I stoop to give you. I owe you nothing, and you're lucky
I even bother to muss your hair up from time to time. How I pity
you!
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Answer Me Dammit!!!" Reid-
You must first know thyself dimwit...

"So you never even left the trenches?"
i
"piop"
Bill Reid
2008-10-14 01:58:09 UTC
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I hate to repeat myself, but in this case, it's appropriate...
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Yup, folks, two times I asked him to admit he was wrong about
something in his post, and both times he refused to do it, instead
resorting to his usual juvenile hand-waving and obfuscation...just
as I predicted he would, based on his previous history...

---
William Ernest "Past Results DO Equal Future Performance" Reid
ichorwhip
2008-10-14 03:12:33 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
I hate to repeat myself, but in this case, it's appropriate...
No it's not you dumb Reidiot®.... sheeesh! This is why nobody should
ever talk to you. My dog is 600 hundred times smarter than you'll
ever be. Now if I gave you a Milkbone(TM) would you change your mind?
Post by Bill Reid
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
MouuuuuHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ploop!
Post by Bill Reid
Yup, folks, two times I asked him to admit he was wrong about
something in his post, and both times he refused to do it, instead
resorting to his usual juvenile hand-waving and obfuscation...just
as I predicted he would, based on his previous history...
Completely wrong and utterly predictable... Although I do rather like
the quote of mine you've seized upon like a rabid pitbull. Too bad
you can't live by it you lying liar that lies...
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Past Results DO Equal Future Performance" Reid
Idiot.

"Look, whaddaya talk
Whaddaya talk, whaddaya talk
Whaddaya talk, whaddaya talk
Where do you get it?
Whaddaya talk?
You can talk, you can talk
You can bicker, you can talk
You can bicker, bicker, bicker
You can talk, you can talk
You can talk, talk, talk, talk,
Bicker, bicker, bicker
You can talk all you want
But it's different then it was
No it ain't, no it ain't
But you gotta know the territory!"
i
"piop"
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Think I'll toss in some old posts from AMK before the Kubrick Truth
Squad took over.
Why do all of you resist the fact that the drug culture may have had an
influense on this film?
Does it really matter one way or the other? Clarke avowed in an interview
that to the best of his knowledge, no member of the crew was using drugs
during production, but that he "wouldn't speak for all the members of the
special effects crew." So maybe some of it was drug-inspired. Either way
it won't change my opinion of the film. None of it would have been
possible without Kubrick's guiding presence.
Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary -- the
drug was legal, and in anycase is medically (as opposed to
psychologically) harmless -- but says he later came to decide against
it, as it removed one's critical faculties from one's aesthetic
judgements. His pronouncement was that it was probably of more use to
the audience than to the artist for just this reason. In his own
words,
"Perhaps when everything is beautiful, nothing is beautiful".
One should note also that the entire final part of the film -- not
only
the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the
'hotel
room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not
only
in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows.
Even
the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
drug.

One should note that, LSD is technically not a hallucinogen -- it
doesn't cause you to see physical representations of things that are
not
there (as opposed to the psychosis effected by methamphetamine
overdose,
for example) -- 'psychedelic', a coinage based on the greek
declension
'psychodelien' was applied precisely because it was thought the drug
'manifested the mind' -- that is, removed the affective filters from
one's sensory perceptions (or, as Kubrick would say, one's
criticality),
and placed the brain into a kind of 'feedback' mode, bringing the
entire
apparatus of consciousness into one's awareness. It was widely
believed
(and currently thought, by many) that the experience resulting from
use
of the drug is what our minds were really, in fact, all about -- our
'metareality'. The effect of the drug, it's impression, is deeply
ontological and overwhelmling -- and not 'intoxicating' at all,
except
in the figurative sense.....

It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to
see
Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
"Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us, as being
something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a
deep
chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's
not
hard to imagine why that mught be the case -- these scenes remarkably
resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY
inside
us...

Bowman's breaking the glass (at jewish weddings a symbol of, among
many
things, Jung-Freud's Reality Principle :) breaks the spell of
course...and brings to death, and transcendence....


__
As an aside, there are a couple of other points re LSD in relation to
'the drug culture' to be considered. Leary and Alpert, the first to
popularise the cultural use of psychedelics (peyote/mescaline, at
first
-- LSD, though around for many years under Sandoz' tradename
'Delysid',
didn't come to their attention until much later) were kicked out of
Harvard for using the mescaline tabs they had been alloted outside of
the established protocols for their testing program (a moot point
perhaps, as they argued the parties they gave for faculty and
students
WERE the protocols for their research :). LSD was not only the
subject
of many researches of the time, it came to be a common social
lubricant,
outlawed only after it became wholly emblematic of the social and
political counterculture, and subject to wide misuse -- this was
shortly
after Owsley, in Berkeley, learned how to inexpensively synthesize
the
drug's complex organic components. Senator Edward Kennedy, while
serving
on the comittee which was responsible for scheduling the drug as a
class
1 controlled substance -- unavailable even for medical research
[where,
for example, it had already been shown to be nearly 90% effective in
the
treatment of achoholism in controlled therapy] -- earned black marks
for
having ruled 'out of order' any testimony by the hundreds of people
in
the medical community who argued against prohibition, and for his
attempts behind the scenes to ridicule and humiliate those who spoke
out
publically again the agenda of his comittee. Shortly after LSD was
scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury
and
Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily
available
and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control --
and
the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
narcotics trafficking -- was established.

___
Geoffrey

---------------------------------------------------------------
: Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary -- the
Isn't this streching things a bit? At least where I'm from, LSD was
never common and ordinary.
Condolences.
: One should note also that the entire final part of the film -- not only
: the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the 'hotel
: room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
: experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not only
: in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows. Even
: the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
: drug.
Perhaps this is what you experience while on LSD, I don't know. But in my
opinion this is a very shallow interpretation of the end of the film. I
would like to perscribe more deeply metaphysical meanings to this
sequence, not what happens to the brain when you feed it certain
chemicals (which is a very physical process).
I ascribe those meanings too. In fact, my interpretations (as we know)
are
usually so esoterically arcane they're magisterial, in the old
sense :).
But this has little to do with the established fact that the LSD
experience
mimics or duplicates the expriences of both pathological psychosis
and
ecstatic religious experience. All of these have a common ground in a
meta-cognative experince of the Absolute.
: It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to see
: Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
: "Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us, as being
: something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a deep
: chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's not
: hard to imagine why that mught be the case -- these scenes remarkably
: resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY inside
: us...
I guess this is where we disagree. Even if I were to accept (which I
doubt) that taking LSD gives us the ability to perceive how our brains
"work", I don't think that has anything to do with what's man is really
about. There is nothing metaphysical about the interaction between the
chemical in the brain and the chemicals in LSD no matter how pretty the
pictures are.
Unless the chemicals in the brain are effecteed in such a way as to
allow
it to operate differently.
An additional couple of facts regarding LSD may be in order -- the
'trip'
per se does not begin until after the drug (only about 300 >molecules<
of
the average 250microgram dosage is require to pass the blood-brain
barrier)
is fully metabolised from the body; and, most interestingly, only the
dextro-rotary form of the molecule is effective. Grow the crystal L-
rot,
and it's like taking a sugar-pill. If you anything about
biochemistry,
you'll realise the implications of this :)
This statement you make regarding the 'physicality of the brain's
chemistry' is a perfect example of the the spiritualist fallacy: to
apply
the objectivist strictures of materialism to absurdity. The dualism
you're
assuming logically is inherently contradictory in its terms (and
probably
the levantine residue of some unexamined philosophical assumptions on
your
part).
"Beyond the Infinite" can only mean a non-physical plane of
existance, for in the physical world is inheritly confined within the
infinite.
William Blake, St. Teresa of Avila, San Juan de la Cruz, Guru Nanak
Dev,
Karl Marx, and the Dalai Lama would all disagree with you :) It begs
the
point whether what is inside the mind (which is within the brain) is
infinite. Or, as is commonly posited: the infinitude of the human
imagination with which we are gifted as creatures is the agency of
the
infinite Divine within the limited physical sphere of Its own
creation. Or
something like that. Metaphysics which denies the physical doesn't
have a
leg to stand on :)
: Shortly after LSD was
: scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury and
: Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily available
: and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
: time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control -- and
: the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
: narcotics trafficking -- was established.
Which I think illustrates the point that people were not out for
enlightenment, just a good fix. The difference is metaphysical vs.
physcial.
If there is a difference. For either to exist, I maintain the
difference is
illusory. But, the point is that many people were out for
enlightnement,
and many people were out for a good time, and many people could not
tell
the difference between them (as is always the case, whether in
religion or
entertainment :). I would never assert that you'd have to have the
experience to understand it (or at least to understand it's nature
and
implications) but, if you did, you see the fundamental flaws in the
way you
think of it (as an affective intoxicant -- which it isn't).
As Jack Kerouac said after taking it -- "Walking on water wasn't built
in a
day" (and when Abbie Hoffman was asked whether the experience changed
his
religious conceptions, he replied "What, is there supposed to be
ANOTHER
god I don't believe in?"). A religious person will have their
convictions
affirmed mightly, and a thrill seeker will have fun. All you get when
you
take the drug is what's in your head already -- all of it, that is --
at
about 10000x magnification. No wonder some folks went wacky. It is, at
the
very least, and excellent conceptual laxative.
If the final act of 2001 resembles this, it may or may not have to do
with
the recreational activities of the crewpeople, but certainly has
everything
to do with the fact that Kubrick is taking us directly into the heart
of
human consciousness at the same time he has propelled us (plotwise)
into
the furthest reaches of the physical universe. It says, then, that
the
human entelchy is Transcendence (of Whatever). A powerfully
metaphysical
statement, no? expressing not merely the mutual contigency of the
physical
and metaphysical, but their ultimate mutual identity, using to film
disclose it in an awesomely affecting way (here Kubrick makes the art
film
the apotheosis of The Metaphor, superior to written or spoken
language, or
even to painting, sculpture, photography, etc.)....no wonder we have
statements by such as (the noted atheist) John Lennon, that it should
be
shown round the clock on a museum wall (which for me however does
come
disturbingly close to Hitler's announcement to Wagner's daughter that
he
would make a religion out of 'Parsifal'...).
2001 is a jungian hyper-myth, clothing the religious apparencies of
old in
contemporary garb....
Well, anyway, it's 8:30am on a Monday, and I'm grumpy, and perhaps
I'll
feel differently later in the day, after I finally wake up. But,
pretty
much, that's what I have to say about it for now.
__
In the interest of personal disclosure (and not meaning this to be an
advocacy), I haven't taken LSD (or what usually passes for it: the
much
less-affecting Lysergic Amides peddled on the street) myself for over
10
years (I'm about 40 years old now) but to extrapolate the time-frames
during which I've used it, and the frequency with which I did, I've
taken
it close to, if not over, a thousand times. I would hope no one would
suggest it may have had a bad effect on me.
Geoffrey Alexander
__________________________________________________________
If you can talk brilliantly enough about a problem, it can
create the consoling illusion that it has been mastered...
Stanley Kubrick
Newsgroups: alt.movies.kubrick
From: ***@netins.net (geoffrey alexander)
Date: 1996/12/09
Subject: Re: LSD and 2001


In article <58f9q4$***@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, ***@cse.ucsc.edu
(Jonathan
: Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary -- the
Isn't this streching things a bit? At least where I'm from, LSD was
never common and ordinary.
Condolences.
: One should note also that the entire final part of the film -- not only
: the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the 'hotel
: room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
: experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not only
: in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows. Even
: the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
: drug.
Perhaps this is what you experience while on LSD, I don't know. But in my
opinion this is a very shallow interpretation of the end of the film. I
would like to perscribe more deeply metaphysical meanings to this
sequence, not what happens to the brain when you feed it certain
chemicals (which is a very physical process).
I ascribe those meanings too. In fact, my interpretations (as we know)
are
usually so esoterically arcane they're magisterial, in the old
sense :).
But this has little to do with the established fact that the LSD
experience
mimics or duplicates the expriences of both pathological psychosis
and
ecstatic religious experience. All of these have a common ground in a
meta-cognative experince of the Absolute.
: It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to see
: Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
: "Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us, as being
: something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a deep
: chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's not
: hard to imagine why that mught be the case -- these scenes remarkably
: resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY inside
: us...
I guess this is where we disagree. Even if I were to accept (which I
doubt) that taking LSD gives us the ability to perceive how our brains
"work", I don't think that has anything to do with what's man is really
about. There is nothing metaphysical about the interaction between the
chemical in the brain and the chemicals in LSD no matter how pretty the
pictures are.
Unless the chemicals in the brain are effecteed in such a way as to
allow
it to operate differently.
An additional couple of facts regarding LSD may be in order -- the
'trip'
per se does not begin until after the drug (only about 300 >molecules<
of
the average 250microgram dosage is require to pass the blood-brain
barrier)
is fully metabolised from the body; and, most interestingly, only the
dextro-rotary form of the molecule is effective. Grow the crystal L-
rot,
and it's like taking a sugar-pill. If you anything about
biochemistry,
you'll realise the implications of this :)
This statement you make regarding the 'physicality of the brain's
chemistry' is a perfect example of the the spiritualist fallacy: to
apply
the objectivist strictures of materialism to absurdity. The dualism
you're
assuming logically is inherently contradictory in its terms (and
probably
the levantine residue of some unexamined philosophical assumptions on
your
part).
"Beyond the Infinite" can only mean a non-physical plane of
existance, for in the physical world is inheritly confined within the
infinite.
William Blake, St. Teresa of Avila, San Juan de la Cruz, Guru Nanak
Dev,
Karl Marx, and the Dalai Lama would all disagree with you :) It begs
the
point whether what is inside the mind (which is within the brain) is
infinite. Or, as is commonly posited: the infinitude of the human
imagination with which we are gifted as creatures is the agency of
the
infinite Divine within the limited physical sphere of Its own
creation. Or
something like that. Metaphysics which denies the physical doesn't
have a
leg to stand on :)
: Shortly after LSD was
: scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury and
: Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily available
: and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
: time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control -- and
: the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
: narcotics trafficking -- was established.
Which I think illustrates the point that people were not out for
enlightenment, just a good fix. The difference is metaphysical vs.
physcial.
If there is a difference. For either to exist, I maintain the
difference is
illusory. But, the point is that many people were out for
enlightnement,
and many people were out for a good time, and many people could not
tell
the difference between them (as is always the case, whether in
religion or
entertainment :). I would never assert that you'd have to have the
experience to understand it (or at least to understand it's nature
and
implications) but, if you did, you see the fundamental flaws in the
way you
think of it (as an affective intoxicant -- which it isn't).
As Jack Kerouac said after taking it -- "Walking on water wasn't built
in a
day" (and when Abbie Hoffman was asked whether the experience changed
his
religious conceptions, he replied "What, is there supposed to be
ANOTHER
god I don't believe in?"). A religious person will have their
convictions
affirmed mightly, and a thrill seeker will have fun. All you get when
you
take the drug is what's in your head already -- all of it, that is --
at
about 10000x magnification. No wonder some folks went wacky. It is, at
the
very least, and excellent conceptual laxative.
If the final act of 2001 resembles this, it may or may not have to do
with
the recreational activities of the crewpeople, but certainly has
everything
to do with the fact that Kubrick is taking us directly into the heart
of
human consciousness at the same time he has propelled us (plotwise)
into
the furthest reaches of the physical universe. It says, then, that
the
human entelchy is Transcendence (of Whatever). A powerfully
metaphysical
statement, no? expressing not merely the mutual contigency of the
physical
and metaphysical, but their ultimate mutual identity, using to film
disclose it in an awesomely affecting way (here Kubrick makes the art
film
the apotheosis of The Metaphor, superior to written or spoken
language, or
even to painting, sculpture, photography, etc.)....no wonder we have
statements by such as (the noted atheist) John Lennon, that it should
be
shown round the clock on a museum wall (which for me however does
come
disturbingly close to Hitler's announcement to Wagner's daughter that
he
would make a religion out of 'Parsifal'...).
2001 is a jungian hyper-myth, clothing the religious apparencies of
old in
contemporary garb....
Well, anyway, it's 8:30am on a Monday, and I'm grumpy, and perhaps
I'll
feel differently later in the day, after I finally wake up. But,
pretty
much, that's what I have to say about it for now.
__
In the interest of personal disclosure (and not meaning this to be an
advocacy), I haven't taken LSD (or what usually passes for it: the
much
less-affecting Lysergic Amides peddled on the street) myself for over
10
years (I'm about 40 years old now) but to extrapolate the time-frames
during which I've used it, and the frequency with which I did, I've
taken
it close to, if not over, a thousand times. I would hope no one would
suggest it may have had a bad effect on me.
Geoffrey Alexander
__________________________________________________________
If you can talk brilliantly enough about a problem, it can
create the consoling illusion that it has been mastered...
Stanley Kubrick


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.movies.kubrick

Date: 1996/11/24
Subject: Re: LSD and 2001

If you take a large enough dose of Acid and meditate on the Mystical
Law
of the Universe, for eight hours, you don't need to see the movie
2001..........it's then too mundane.
dc :)
ichorwhip
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Think I'll toss in some old posts from AMK before the Kubrick Truth Squad took over.
Ever the disdain for the truth... I can't tell where you end and
Reidiot® In-the-Red begins... Are yuz stuck together? Should I get a
pail of water?
Why do all of you resist the fact that the drug culture may have had an influense on this film?
Does it really matter one way or the other? Clarke avowed in an interview
that to the best of his knowledge, no member of the crew was using drugs
during production, but that he "wouldn't speak for all the members of the
special effects crew." So maybe some of it was drug-inspired. Either way
it won't change my opinion of the film. None of it would have been
possible without Kubrick's guiding presence.
Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary --
This is about the flakiest thing I've ever heard Geoff A. say really.
Still where's the proof?
the drug was legal, and in any case is medically (as opposed to
psychologically) harmless --
Except when you think you can fly and jump off a building to test
things out. Icarus Wrecks!
but says he later came to decide against
it, as it removed one's critical faculties from one's aesthetic
judgements. His pronouncement was that it was probably of more use to
the audience than to the artist for just this reason. In his own
words, "Perhaps when everything is beautiful, nothing is beautiful".
One should note also that the entire final part of the film --
This is a paraphrase of what he said in the '68 PB interview.
not only the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the
'hotel room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not
only in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows.
Even the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
drug.
Sounds like Geoff speaks from experience. Maybe he was the wind
beneath your wings eh Kelpsy? More like the wind beneath his ass...
One should note that, LSD is technically not a hallucinogen -- it
doesn't cause you to see physical representations of things that are
not there (as opposed to the psychosis effected by methamphetamine
overdose, for example) -- 'psychedelic', a coinage based on the greek
declension 'psychodelien' was applied precisely because it was thought the drug
'manifested the mind' -- that is, removed the affective filters from
one's sensory perceptions (or, as Kubrick would say, one's
criticality), and placed the brain into a kind of 'feedback' mode, bringing the
entire apparatus of consciousness into one's awareness. It was widely
believed (and currently thought, by many) that the experience resulting from
use of the drug is what our minds were really, in fact, all about -- our
'metareality'. The effect of the drug, it's impression, is deeply
ontological and overwhelmling -- and not 'intoxicating' at all,
except in the figurative sense.....
It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to
see Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
"Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us,
A George Harrison fan too?
as being something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a
deep chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's
not hard to imagine why that might be the case -- these scenes remarkably
resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY
inside us...
I think he had a bit too much myself!
Bowman's breaking the glass (at jewish weddings a symbol of, among
many things, Jung-Freud's Reality Principle :) breaks the spell of
course...and brings to death, and transcendence....
__
As an aside, there are a couple of other points re LSD in relation to
'the drug culture' to be considered. Leary and Alpert, the first to
popularise the cultural use of psychedelics (peyote/mescaline, at
first -- LSD, though around for many years under Sandoz' tradename
'Delysid', didn't come to their attention until much later) were kicked out of
Harvard for using the mescaline tabs they had been alloted outside of
the established protocols for their testing program (a moot point
perhaps, as they argued the parties they gave for faculty and
students WERE the protocols for their research :). LSD was not only the
subject of many researches of the time, it came to be a common social
lubricant,
Like KY Jelly for your head dude....
outlawed only after it became wholly emblematic of the social and
political counterculture, and subject to wide misuse
More like outlawed as a dangerous substance of abuse....
-- this was shortly after Owsley, in Berkeley, learned how to inexpensively synthesize
the drug's complex organic components. Senator Edward Kennedy, while
serving on the comittee which was responsible for scheduling the drug as a
class 1 controlled substance -- unavailable even for medical research
[where, for example, it had already been shown to be nearly 90% effective in
the treatment of achoholism in controlled therapy] -- earned black marks
for having ruled 'out of order' any testimony by the hundreds of people
in the medical community who argued against prohibition, and for his
attempts behind the scenes to ridicule and humiliate those who spoke
out publically again the agenda of his comittee. Shortly after LSD was
scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury
and Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily
available and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control --
and the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
narcotics trafficking -- was established.
___
Geoffrey
Nice reporting Geoff! Too bad you aren't around anymore to argue
with. You might be a little flaky, but you're countless times better
than the Pseudo-Truth Douches who have hijacked-off your newsgroup.
---------------------------------------------------------------
: Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary -- the
Isn't this streching things a bit? At least where I'm from, LSD was
never common and ordinary.
Condolences.
How stinking witty was that?
: One should note also that the entire final part of the film -- not only
: the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the 'hotel
: room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
: experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not only
: in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows. Even
: the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
: drug.
Perhaps this is what you experience while on LSD, I don't know. But in my
opinion this is a very shallow interpretation of the end of the film.
Oui! Si! Yep!
I would like to perscribe more deeply metaphysical meanings to this
sequence, not what happens to the brain when you feed it certain
chemicals (which is a very physical process).
Leave it to dumb old man Kelps to post the part that blows his LSD
fantasies out of the mirage of water...
I ascribe those meanings too. In fact, my interpretations (as we know)
are usually so esoterically arcane they're magisterial, in the old
sense :). But this has little to do with the established fact that the LSD
experience mimics or duplicates the expriences of both pathological psychosis
and ecstatic religious experience. All of these have a common ground in a
meta-cognative experince of the Absolute.
I'll bet you didn't even understand that!
: It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to see
: Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
: "Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us, as being
: something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a deep
: chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's not
: hard to imagine why that mught be the case -- these scenes remarkably
: resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY inside
: us...
I guess this is where we disagree. Even if I were to accept (which I
doubt) that taking LSD gives us the ability to perceive how our brains
"work", I don't think that has anything to do with what's man is really
about. There is nothing metaphysical about the interaction between the
chemical in the brain and the chemicals in LSD no matter how pretty the
pictures are.
Unless the chemicals in the brain are effecteed in such a way as to
allow it to operate differently. An additional couple of facts regarding LSD may be in order -- the
'trip' per se does not begin until after the drug (only about 300 >molecules<
of the average 250microgram dosage is require to pass the blood-brain
barrier) is fully metabolised from the body; and, most interestingly, only the
dextro-rotary form of the molecule is effective. Grow the crystal L-
rot, and it's like taking a sugar-pill. If you anything about
biochemistry, you'll realise the implications of this :)
This statement you make regarding the 'physicality of the brain's
chemistry' is a perfect example of the the spiritualist fallacy: to
apply the objectivist strictures of materialism to absurdity. The dualism
you're assuming logically is inherently contradictory in its terms (and
probably the levantine residue of some unexamined philosophical assumptions on
your part).
That was a much better, although pretty sloppy, counterargument than
anything Kelpsydoodoo ever came up with.
"Beyond the Infinite" can only mean a non-physical plane of
existance, for in the physical world is inheritly confined within the
infinite.
William Blake, St. Teresa of Avila, San Juan de la Cruz, Guru Nanak
Dev, Karl Marx, and the Dalai Lama would all disagree with you :) It begs
the point whether what is inside the mind (which is within the brain) is
infinite. Or, as is commonly posited: the infinitude of the human
imagination with which we are gifted as creatures is the agency of
the infinite Divine within the limited physical sphere of Its own
creation. Or something like that. Metaphysics which denies the physical doesn't
have a leg to stand on :)
: Shortly after LSD was
: scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury and
: Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily available
: and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
: time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control -- and
: the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
: narcotics trafficking -- was established.
Which I think illustrates the point that people were not out for
enlightenment, just a good fix. The difference is metaphysical vs.
physcial.
If there is a difference. For either to exist, I maintain the
difference is illusory. But, the point is that many people were out for
enlightnement, and many people were out for a good time, and many people could not
tell the difference between them (as is always the case, whether in
religion or entertainment :). I would never assert that you'd have to have the
experience to understand it (or at least to understand it's nature
and implications) but, if you did, you see the fundamental flaws in the
way you think of it (as an affective intoxicant -- which it isn't).
As Jack Kerouac said after taking it -- "Walking on water wasn't built
in a day" (and when Abbie Hoffman was asked whether the experience changed
his religious conceptions, he replied "What, is there supposed to be
ANOTHER god I don't believe in?"). A religious person will have their
convictions affirmed mightly, and a thrill seeker will have fun. All you get when
you take the drug is what's in your head already -- all of it, that is --
at about 10000x magnification. No wonder some folks went wacky.
And how! LOL!!!!!
It is, at the very least, and excellent conceptual laxative.
If the final act of 2001 resembles this, it may or may not have to do
with the recreational activities of the crewpeople, but certainly has
everything to do with the fact that Kubrick is taking us directly into the heart
of human consciousness at the same time he has propelled us (plotwise)
into the furthest reaches of the physical universe. It says, then, that
the human entelchy is Transcendence (of Whatever). A powerfully
metaphysical statement, no? expressing not merely the mutual contigency of the
physical and metaphysical, but their ultimate mutual identity, using to film
disclose it in an awesomely affecting way (here Kubrick makes the art
film the apotheosis of The Metaphor, superior to written or spoken
language, or even to painting, sculpture, photography, etc.)....no wonder we have
statements by such as (the noted atheist) John Lennon, that it should
be shown round the clock on a museum wall (which for me however does
come disturbingly close to Hitler's announcement to Wagner's daughter that
he would make a religion out of 'Parsifal'...).
2001 is a jungian hyper-myth, clothing the religious apparencies of
old in contemporary garb....
Well, anyway, it's 8:30am on a Monday, and I'm grumpy, and perhaps
I'll feel differently later in the day, after I finally wake up. But,
pretty much, that's what I have to say about it for now.
__
In the interest of personal disclosure (and not meaning this to be an
advocacy), I haven't taken LSD (or what usually passes for it: the
much less-affecting Lysergic Amides peddled on the street) myself for over
10 years (I'm about 40 years old now) but to extrapolate the time-frames
during which I've used it, and the frequency with which I did, I've
taken it close to, if not over, a thousand times. I would hope no one would
suggest it may have had a bad effect on me.
Geoffrey Alexander
Not at all Geoff! ;-) At least you could argue a point effectively
without being obtuse or disingenuous to the other side. Hell I think
I like you!

"Come back Shane!"
i
"piop"
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Think I'll toss in some old posts from AMK before the Kubrick Truth Squad took over.
Ever the disdain for the truth...  I can't tell where you end and
Reidiot® In-the-Red begins...  Are yuz stuck together?  Should I get a
pail of water?
Why do all of you resist the fact that the drug culture may have had an influense on this film?
Does it really matter one way or the other? Clarke avowed in an interview
that to the best of his knowledge, no member of the crew was using drugs
during production, but that he "wouldn't speak for all the members of the
special effects crew." So maybe some of it was drug-inspired. Either way
it won't change my opinion of the film. None of it would have been
possible without Kubrick's guiding presence.
Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary --
This is about the flakiest thing I've ever heard Geoff A. say really.
Still where's the proof?
the drug was legal, and in any case is medically (as opposed to
psychologically) harmless --
Except when you think you can fly and jump off a building to test
things out.  Icarus Wrecks!
but says he later came to decide against
it, as it removed one's critical faculties from one's aesthetic
judgements. His pronouncement was that it was probably of more use to
the audience than to the artist for just this reason. In his own
words, "Perhaps when everything is beautiful, nothing is beautiful".
One should note also that the entire final part of the film --
This is a paraphrase of what he said in the '68 PB interview.
not only the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the
'hotel room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not
only in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows.
Even the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
drug.
Sounds like Geoff speaks from experience.  Maybe he was the wind
beneath your wings eh Kelpsy?  More like the wind beneath his ass...
One should note that, LSD is technically not a hallucinogen -- it
doesn't cause you to see physical representations of things that are
not there (as opposed to the psychosis effected by methamphetamine
overdose, for example) -- 'psychedelic', a coinage based on the greek
declension 'psychodelien' was applied precisely because it was thought the drug
'manifested the mind' -- that is, removed the affective filters from
one's sensory perceptions (or, as Kubrick would say, one's
criticality), and placed the brain into a kind of 'feedback' mode, bringing the
entire apparatus of consciousness into one's awareness. It was widely
believed (and currently thought, by many) that the experience resulting from
use of the drug is what our minds were really, in fact, all about -- our
'metareality'. The effect of the drug, it's impression, is deeply
ontological and overwhelmling -- and not 'intoxicating' at all,
except in the figurative sense.....
It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to
see Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
"Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us,
A George Harrison fan too?
as being something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a
deep chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's
not hard to imagine why that might be the case -- these scenes remarkably
resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY
inside us...
I think he had a bit too much myself!
Bowman's breaking the glass (at jewish weddings a symbol of, among
many things, Jung-Freud's Reality Principle :) breaks the spell of
course...and brings to death, and transcendence....
__
As an aside, there are a couple of other points re LSD in relation to
'the drug culture' to be considered. Leary and Alpert, the first to
popularise the cultural use of psychedelics (peyote/mescaline, at
first -- LSD, though around for many years under Sandoz' tradename
'Delysid', didn't come to their attention until much later) were kicked out of
Harvard for using the mescaline tabs they had been alloted outside of
the established protocols for their testing program (a moot point
perhaps, as they argued the parties they gave for faculty and
students WERE the protocols for their research :). LSD was not only the
subject of many researches of the time, it came to be a common social
lubricant,
Like KY Jelly for your head dude....
outlawed only after it became wholly emblematic of the social and
political counterculture, and subject to wide misuse
More like outlawed as a dangerous substance of abuse....
-- this was shortly after Owsley, in Berkeley, learned how to inexpensively synthesize
the drug's complex organic components. Senator Edward Kennedy, while
serving on the comittee which was responsible for scheduling the drug as a
class 1 controlled substance -- unavailable even for medical research
[where, for example, it had already been shown to be nearly 90% effective in
the treatment of achoholism in controlled therapy] -- earned black marks
for having ruled 'out of order' any testimony by the hundreds of people
in the medical community who argued against prohibition, and for his
attempts behind the scenes to ridicule and humiliate those who spoke
out publically again the agenda of his comittee. Shortly after LSD was
scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury
and Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily
available and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control --
and the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
narcotics trafficking -- was established.
___
Geoffrey
Nice reporting Geoff!  Too bad you aren't around anymore to argue
with.  You might be a little flaky, but you're countless times better
than the Pseudo-Truth Douches who have hijacked-off your newsgroup.
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: Kubrick did use LSD -- it was pretty common then, and ordinary -- the
Isn't this streching things a bit? At least where I'm from, LSD was
never common and ordinary.
Condolences.
How stinking witty was that?
: One should note also that the entire final part of the film -- not only
: the 'lightshow', but the 'exploding' organic forms AS WELL AS the 'hotel
: room' scene are perfect duplicates of a (pharmaceutically pure) LSD
: experience (at pschedelic as opposed to psychotropic dosage) -- not only
: in it's imagery, but in the sequence of stages a subject follows. Even
: the altered Ligeti is mixed to duplicate the auditory effects of the
: drug.
Perhaps this is what you experience while on LSD, I don't know. But in my
opinion this is a very shallow interpretation of the end of the film.
Oui! Si! Yep!
I would like to perscribe more deeply metaphysical meanings to this
sequence, not what happens to the brain when you feed it certain
chemicals (which is a very physical process).
Leave it to dumb old man Kelps to post the part that blows his LSD
fantasies out of the mirage of water...
I ascribe those meanings too. In fact, my interpretations (as we know)
are usually so esoterically arcane they're magisterial, in the old
sense :). But this has little to do with the established fact that the LSD
experience mimics or duplicates the expriences of both pathological psychosis
and ecstatic religious experience. All of these have a common ground in a
meta-cognative experince of the Absolute.
I'll bet you didn't even understand that!
: It isn't difficult (or discomforting, unless one is prejudiced) to see
: Kubrick's representation of the Infinite (or, as the title-card says,
: "Beyond the Infinite") that lies both within and without us, as being
: something like that, even visually. Certainly, the scene strikes a deep
: chord within us, even subconsciously. Keeping all this in mind, it's not
: hard to imagine why that mught be the case -- these scenes remarkably
: resemble what we get from taking LSD because that's what's REALLY inside
: us...
I guess this is where we disagree. Even if I were to accept (which I
doubt) that taking LSD gives us the ability to perceive how our brains
"work", I don't think that has anything to do with what's man is really
about. There is nothing metaphysical about the interaction between the
chemical in the brain and the chemicals in LSD no matter how pretty the
pictures are.
Unless the chemicals in the brain are effecteed in such a way as to
allow it to operate differently. An additional couple of facts regarding LSD may be in order -- the
'trip' per se does not begin until after the drug (only about 300 >molecules<
of the average 250microgram dosage is require to pass the blood-brain
barrier) is fully metabolised from the body; and, most interestingly, only the
dextro-rotary form of the molecule is effective. Grow the crystal L-
rot, and it's like taking a sugar-pill. If you anything about
biochemistry, you'll realise the implications of this :)
This statement you make regarding the 'physicality of the brain's
chemistry' is a perfect example of the the spiritualist fallacy: to
apply the objectivist strictures of materialism to absurdity. The dualism
you're assuming logically is inherently contradictory in its terms (and
probably the levantine residue of some unexamined philosophical assumptions on
your part).
That was a much better, although pretty sloppy, counterargument than
anything Kelpsydoodoo ever came up with.
"Beyond the Infinite" can only mean a non-physical plane of
existance, for in the physical world is inheritly confined within the
infinite.
William Blake, St. Teresa of Avila, San Juan de la Cruz, Guru Nanak
Dev, Karl Marx, and the Dalai Lama would all disagree with you :) It begs
the point whether what is inside the mind (which is within the brain) is
infinite. Or, as is commonly posited: the infinitude of the human
imagination with which we are gifted as creatures is the agency of
the infinite Divine within the limited physical sphere of Its own
creation. Or something like that. Metaphysics which denies the physical doesn't
have a leg to stand on :)
: Shortly after LSD was
: scheduled out of common availability, such places as Haight-Ashbury and
: Greenwich Village were flooded by organised crime with readily available
: and inexpensive heroin, along with other narcotics which, up til that
: time, were relatively rare in the mainstream under mafia control -- and
: the 'drug-culture' as we know it today -- as a criminal enterprise of
: narcotics trafficking -- was established.
Which I think illustrates the point that people were not out for
enlightenment, just a good fix. The difference is metaphysical vs.
physcial.
If there is a difference. For either to exist, I maintain the
difference is illusory. But, the point is that many people were out for
enlightnement, and many people were out for a good time, and many people could not
tell the difference between them (as is always the case, whether in
religion or entertainment :). I would never assert that you'd have to have the
experience to understand it (or at least to understand it's nature
and implications) but, if you did, you see the fundamental flaws in the
way you think of it (as an affective intoxicant -- which it isn't).
As Jack Kerouac said after taking it -- "Walking on water wasn't built
in a day" (and when Abbie Hoffman was asked whether the experience changed
his religious conceptions, he replied "What, is there supposed to be
ANOTHER god I don't believe in?"). A religious person will have their
convictions affirmed mightly, and a thrill seeker will have fun. All you get when
you take the drug is what's in your head already -- all of it, that is --
at about 10000x magnification. No wonder some folks went wacky.
And how!  LOL!!!!!
It is, at the very least, and excellent conceptual laxative.
If the final act of 2001 resembles this, it may or may not have to do
with the recreational activities of the crewpeople, but certainly has
everything to do with the fact that Kubrick is taking us directly into the heart
of human consciousness at the same time he has propelled us (plotwise)
into the furthest reaches of the physical universe. It says, then, that
the human entelchy is Transcendence (of Whatever). A powerfully
metaphysical statement, no? expressing not merely the mutual contigency of the
physical and metaphysical, but their ultimate mutual identity, using to film
disclose it in an awesomely affecting way (here Kubrick makes the art
film the apotheosis of The Metaphor, superior to written or spoken
language, or even to painting, sculpture, photography, etc.)....no wonder we have
statements by such as (the noted atheist) John Lennon, that it should
be shown round the clock on a museum wall (which for me however does
come disturbingly close to Hitler's announcement to Wagner's daughter that
he would make a religion out of 'Parsifal'...).
2001 is a jungian hyper-myth, clothing the religious apparencies of
old in contemporary garb....
Well, anyway, it's 8:30am on a Monday, and I'm grumpy, and perhaps
I'll feel differently later in the day, after I finally wake up. But,
pretty much, that's what I have to say about it for now.
__
In the interest of personal disclosure (and not meaning this to be an
advocacy), I haven't taken LSD (or what usually passes for it: the
much less-affecting Lysergic Amides peddled on the street) myself for over
10 years (I'm about 40 years old now) but to extrapolate the time-frames
during which I've used it, and the frequency with which I did, I've
taken it close to, if not over, a thousand times. I would hope no one would
suggest it may have had a bad effect on me.
Geoffrey Alexander
Not at all Geoff!  ;-)  At least you could argue a point effectively
without being obtuse or disingenuous to the other side.  Hell I think
I like you!
"Come back Shane!"
i
"piop"
You are just ignorant and don't get any of it.


Spin-Twist and Whip up your Ichor Julius.


dc
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Post by ichorwhip
"Come back Shane!"
i
"piop"
You are just ignorant and don't get any of it.
Did Reidiot® put you up to that? A bitter repulse....
Post by kelpzoidzl
Spin-Twist and Whip up your Ichor Julius.
dc
Well... that was stupid.

"I apologize for not telling you sooner...
that you're a degenerate, sadistic old man.
And you can go to hell before I apologize to you now
or ever again!"
i
"piop"
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
So I'm suing somebody for libeling me on the Internet for
$4million. I chose the $4million amount primarily because
it's just about exactly twice as high as the current record
judgement for a case of Internet libel in the US, and I want
to be the new record-holder.
What an idiot you are for trying to brag about something that's not
even going to be true in a way that would totally destroy your case if
it was.
Does anybody have an "Icky-To-English" decoder ring that can
resolve the totured syntax of that non-sentence?
GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Got you again you stupid bazzter! "Totured
syntax...." GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! you kill me!
Post by Bill Reid
The only thing I got was something about "totally destroy your
case".
Go right on and admit how poor your reading comprehension is, it's
okay... all is forgiven... GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! D'oh! Pfffft!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
What do you know about what would "totally destroy" my
case?
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA-HA-HA!!!!!! Cough...cough!!!! Why? Looking for some
free legal advice?
Post by Bill Reid
Are you a lawyer?
I'm not, but let's just say I'm very well connected. That's all you
need to know.
"They said you was hung!"
"And they was right!"
Post by Bill Reid
Do you have some special knowledge
of the law,
Yes.
Post by Bill Reid
have you researched case law on this particular topic,
Yes, but maybe not as much as you, as it is a fantasy for you, much as
is your fake stock enterprise.
Post by Bill Reid
been involved in a lot of legal proceedings?
No. But, I'm ever waiting for you to make your move! So move!
Post by Bill Reid
If not, if you can't provide some backing for your poorly-worded
assertion,
But I can, and I did. What makes you think you deserve free advice
from me anyway? You who have treated me so poorly.... boooo!!!
Post by Bill Reid
it would seem that you are WRONG yet again.
And then you woke up! Your obsession with proving me wrong is never
right it seems. Fumbling idiot, the checker player at the chess
board...
Post by Bill Reid
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
That's right! Just prove me wrong then, and I'll get right on that!
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
You don't know the first thing about the law.
How do you know that?
Simple observation and above average reading comprehension. One
thing's for certain, if you really had a lawyer, he'd have muzzled you
a long time ago or dropped you outright if you didn't comply with his
terms for defending you. The more you run your mouth, the worse
things get for you in a litigious world. Thought you'd know that, but
nope! Does your lawyer know about all your harrassing antics on
Usenet?
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
I've known that
for a long time observing you and the things you say.
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Like I'm going to waste my time explaining my
conviction to a complete brickwall of disingenuousness and obtuseness,
right....
Post by Bill Reid
Can you back that up
with posts of mine that have been factually incorrect on issues
of law?
I'll just wait until you sue me for that.... GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
If not, it would appear that you are once again wrong. But I'm
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Nope, wrong again, admit so sir! GWAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! This is
starting to hurt!
Post by Bill Reid
(Just for the record, I actually HAVE made factual misstatements
of law several times here and in other groups, I am NOT a lawyer,
That's FO sho!
Post by Bill Reid
but
I'm quite sure you will never be able to back up YOUR claim that
YOU "know" what they are.)
I don't have to. I'm not the one bragging like a middleschooler about
how I'm suing someone for 4 meg simply to break a record and make a
moot point because someone besmirched "me" on Usenet (even though you
don't post with your real name.)
Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
You just try
dredging up some legal-info and lingo off of wikipedia or wherever to
scare people with in your own special brand of deluded and maniacal
harassment.
Never widipedia, but I do avail myself of the almost complete
availability of the legal codes of all 50 states
WOW!!!! All 50 huh? GWAHAHA.... oh fuck it...
Post by Bill Reid
and the federal laws
on the Internet these days, along with all the local court rules
and mandatory judicial forms in fillable PDF formats.
Wow! Sounds really technical.... g...g...g... GUFFAW!!!!! You've got
so much time on your hands, might as well fantasize like hell with it
since payday really only comes once a month.
Post by Bill Reid
Saves a
few of those 15 minute trips to the downtown law library, but
I still need to make a few, because some of the case law is
more completely covered in proprietary resources like WestLaw...
Whatever... keep deluding yourself if you want. I remain as
unconvinced as ever.
Post by Bill Reid
As far as scaring people, when "Lowbrow" REALLY stepped
over the line, before I even read his libel, several OTHER people,
some of whom had legal experience up to the Supreme Court
level, immediately warned him he was subject to civil suit for
his behavior. The idiot huffed and bluffed for few days about
how he would humiliate me in a lawsuit, but finally retracted
his libel and admitted it was completely false and only said
it because he was angry...
Brownlow did you such great harm I'm sure. What did he say about you
anyway?
Post by Bill Reid
...only to repeat it again DOZENS of times every time he
got all red-faced in the next few months!!! This is what ensures
that the judge (or jury) will throw the book at him!!! THAT'S
the WORST thing you can do when you libel somebody...
Oh really?!! GWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Do all these GWAHAs count as
libel? I sure hope not. I may need a bailout!
Post by Bill Reid
Sorry, my little "Quote Monkey", I have sued several people
in all types of courts, and have usually "won" but lost a few
here and there as well,
Well those matters would be of public record then. Cite case and
file, and then maybe I'll start believing you, but I prolly won't just
for spite since you're so nice to me. You won't prove anything since
you're just a blowhard fake with major self-destructive tendencies,
which further delude your fragile psychological condition. We've been
through this at least a dozen times. I heard it takes a dog 600 times
to learn a new command. That's prolly a really stupid dog, but maybe
you'll fall somewhere in between that and a normal human being.
Post by Bill Reid
and as such I'm very much a realist
when it comes to my chances of sustaining...and given the
fact base above, this is probably the most slam-dunk case I've
ever had, and I've had a few no-brainers..
You are the no-brainer. You think you're in a vacuum I guess.
Post by Bill Reid
Have you told people that you falsely accuse people of "fraud" and
"being a crook" and "saying the 'n-word' all the time" on the Internet?
Be honest...BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! (Sorry, couldn't help it, "be
honest", sheeeesh!!!)
Where's that decoder ring when you need it? Idiot.
Post by Bill Reid
So you share your repeated use of the 'n-word' with people in
"real life"? Do you tell them you wish death on people because
they didn't like a movie? Do you tell them you stalk and harass
people all over the Internet? Do you use the constant vulgarities
and crude irrational speech you use here at "work", in front of
any children you may come in contact with? Do you brag about
how you mocked the "hideous nose" of a young actress AFTER
you found out she was of Jewish heritage? Do you tell them
you have repeatedly lied about your behavior and lied about other
people and broken your word multiple times?
This is all you've got? You can't harass people worth a crap! Good
luck with your fake suit you fake head case. Be sure to report back
here with all the proof required in order to be believed.
One other thing, why on earth would you expect me to cooperate with
you at all? All you do is harass me and refuse to acknowledge any
answers that I stoop to give you. I owe you nothing, and you're lucky
I even bother to muss your hair up from time to time. How I pity
you!
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Answer Me Dammit!!!" Reid-
You must first know thyself dimwit...
"So you never even left the trenches?"
i
"piop" and Anya is well and Frau is well and Sammy the Golden Child is well and the other grandkids, and the brother-in-law and the motley crew are well and Vivian is BY GOD SHE'S FULL OF STARS
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I'll never tell. (Buffy reference)
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I'll never tell. (Buffy reference)
WELL THAT WORKED OUT, DIDIN'T? full of stars, yes? Anya...shalom et pacem. BOG, PECANS, alt.kubrick.talmud GEN, the true, the rest is commentary. I'm watching ye, peanutter; block and smite and marfa this. KELP remains the very model of a BronxBoyo and we in this will be remembered we talked the talk and watered the nuts, thou small bluish dotmote...how's the wife, yes? Hello, Mrs. Walnut. Today's mafter - Semper AMK.
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In memorium lays next to dad on the estate.
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Anya arrived at the pearly Buddha Jehovah gate and the big boss said, " you're the daughter of that brilliant Angel Stanley? Come on in. He's busy though, working on our fake Buddha Jesus landing, planned for the early 20's. He's got all the Heavenly Holographic equipment. Maybe you can convince him to shoot it in 210mm panoramic, instead of this square shape. What"s up with square shape thing? He did best with that rectangular shape. He's not working at Look anymore. He says something about that being, sacriligious and only the monolith can be a rectangle."
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Anya arrived at the pearly Buddha Jehovah gate and the big boss said, " you're the daughter of that brilliant Angel Stanley? Come on in. He's busy though, working on our fake Buddha Jesus landing, planned for the early 20's. He's got all the Heavenly Holographic equipment. Maybe you can convince him to shoot it in 210mm panoramic, instead of this square shape. What"s up with square shape thing? He did best with that rectangular shape. He's not working at Look anymore. He says something about that being, sacriligious and only the monolith can be a rectangle."
I'd join in here but my random text generator is broken.
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Then The big boss said, "I bring down floods upon ye, to wash away the last vestiges of pecan bark."
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Then The big boss said, "I bring down floods upon ye, to wash away the last vestiges of pecan bark."
Most of the pecan trees died in the drought. So the water swirls around their
dead trunks. :-(
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2015-05-29 00:59:12 UTC
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We shall see about that. Pecan life finds a way.
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We shall see about that. Pecan life finds a way.
You actually are right. Most of our trees are the "Jesus" variety.
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Then you might end up with too good a crop to ignore.
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Oh, the crop is never ignored. Squirrels, o'possums, deer, racoons, humans, beings from Alpha Centauri 8; eveyone likes peecans.
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..AND the rains came, and it rained and rained.clear through summer and then into fall. The snow began to fall over the entire state of Texas. Only the tips of pecan trees could be seen. For ten thousand years texas was frozen and new species of rodents, never seen before ruled the land.
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..AND the rains came, and it rained and rained.clear through summer and then into fall. The snow began to fall over the entire state of Texas. Only the tips of pecan trees could be seen. For ten thousand years texas was frozen and new species of rodents, never seen before ruled the land.
Prolly a better result than what we have now with humans and all, Kelp.
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Post by ichorwhip
I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.
Well, sure, I had TWO freaks forge my name to several posts here,
you remember that, because you claimed it didn't happen, even though
it was obvious.
Nope, don't seem to recall that. GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Post by Bill Reid
And who was the most likely culprit for several of the fraudulent
posts?  Oh, yeah, it was the useless idiotic boring commie Irish
constant name-changing freak "Harrumph Boogely", who seems
to be a heroic role model for you...
Not at all, and I don't think he was your imposter anyways. There is
a much more likely candidate that you haven't named.
Post by Bill Reid
And the other?  Well that would be "Lowbrow", the senile idiot
from the stocks group who thought it would be fun to not only cross-post
his off-topic moronitude here, but forge my name as well.
I thought you were the one doing most of the crossposting. That was
stupidly entertaining. It seems that your MIS is more of a slaughter
pen than AMK is.
Post by Bill Reid
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
(like you and your buddy "Honey Blehly" he thinks he can just say
and do anything he wants when he's mad on the Internet)
(Best include yourself in that list Boogers)
Post by Bill Reid
in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
Oh really?! Dear... dear... Are you sure you're not making this up
just like when you told me you'd done the same thing to me?
GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What a richly delusion dork you are!
Post by Bill Reid
I'm asking for $4million in the complaint, but realistically, I'll be
lucky to collect four pennies from him...
So you admit right here in black and white that this is a frivolous
lawsuit, that won't help you if LowBrown does his homework since this
is a public forum and whatnot. Such a fake load of hilarious bullshit
anyway.
Post by Bill Reid
but at least I'll have that
particular record straight with a legal record of his misdeeds, and
can move on to other miscreants...
What a fantasy life you lead! I'll believe it when I see some actual
proof, which we won't see because you are not who you say you are,
PHONY!
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Posh Spite" Reidiot®
"Don't whine, plead or make speeches. That's my job."
i
"piop"
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Post by Bill Reid
Post by ichorwhip
I thought for sure you were being
forged, and I am sure that it's been done here recently with another
and so forth.
Well, sure, I had TWO freaks forge my name to several posts here,
you remember that, because you claimed it didn't happen, even though
it was obvious.
Nope, don't seem to recall that. GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You're a liar, as usual. But since you kinda almost admit it
below, you almost keep your word:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
And who was the most likely culprit for several of the fraudulent
posts? Oh, yeah, it was the useless idiotic boring commie Irish
constant name-changing freak "Harrumph Boogely", who seems
to be a heroic role model for you...
Not at all,
You've praised him several times for no apparent reason, so you
are lying and wrong once again. But I'm sure you'll admit it, because:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by ichorwhip
and I don't think he was your imposter anyways. There is
a much more likely candidate that you haven't named.
Well, I'm not 100% sure, but if it was somebody else, they did
a very good job tracking "Humjob Boringly" through the flurry of
service providers he used as he apparently was trying to avoid
getting kicked out of each one, and it would be a hella coincidence
that he ran through so many service providers in THAT particular
period of time, unless he was guilty of SOMETHING. So I'm
only 99.99% sure, but I DID consider at least one other possible
individual, but the vast preponderance of the evidence points
to the barf-stained section of the Emerald Isle...

I don't think you really thought this through very well, or are
even capable of thinking something even this simple through
at all, so once again you are wrong. You have no good reason
to THINK it was anybody other than the accused, and could
never provide ANY logical reasons why it would be somebody
else. I'm sure you'll quickly admit it, because after all:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
Oh really?! Dear... dear... Are you sure you're not making this up
just like when you told me you'd done the same thing to me?
But I never said I'd filed a civil suit complaint about you in any
court. Please be so kind as to refer to the post where I said that,
because after all:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008

Just like with "Bore-Ass" I shall wait patiently for you to admit
you are wrong, since I know it won't be long until you renege on
your promise above in the most juvenile and idiotic manner possible.
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
I'm asking for $4million in the complaint, but realistically, I'll be
lucky to collect four pennies from him...
So you admit right here in black and white that this is a frivolous
lawsuit, that won't help you if LowBrown does his homework since this
is a public forum and whatnot.
What does his impoverished state have to do with the seriousness
of the lawsuit? I have no other legal remedies for his behavior
(injunctions
are almost never granted for libel, as they are seen as running afoul
of First Amendment "free speech" rights). This lawsuit is in no way
"frivolous" and could never been seen that way by any REASONABLE
sane decent human being.

Once again, you are wrong. I am sure you will admit you don't
know anything about libel laws or law in general, because:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
but at least I'll have that
particular record straight with a legal record of his misdeeds, and
can move on to other miscreants...
What a fantasy life you lead! I'll believe it when I see some actual
proof, which we won't see because you are not who you say you are,
PHONY!
I'm not sure what you're talking about here...why do you need to see
some "actual proof", what the hell do you care? This was "Lowbrow"'s
big mistake, when the cops didn't bust down his door and drag his
fat wife-beater attired ass off to jail amidst a flurry of baton blows
the FIRST time I (and several others) warned him about libel, he,
like the "Lowbrow" he is, felt emboldened, empowered, to continue.

He did the same thing you just did, was constantly asking for
"proof" of something or other. Well, I guess the "proof" will come
soon enough, with an actual uniformed agent of the county at
his doorstep, but like the true idiots you and he are, even THAT
may not be enough...cuz "when you got nothin', you got nothin'
to lose"...riiiiight???

But really, it IS just the mindset of a child; if you don't get
spanked immediately, you "got away with it"...but adult life
isn't like that and fully mature adults don't think like that.

---
William Ernest "You Stink And Smell Like A Little Child" Reid
Bill Reid
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Just THIS one, out of the seven mistakes you made in about as many
hours...even "Bore-Ass" is becoming ashamed of you...
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
Oh really?! Dear... dear... Are you sure you're not making this up
just like when you told me you'd done the same thing to me?
But I never said I'd filed a civil suit complaint about you in any
court. Please be so kind as to refer to the post where I said that,
because after all:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008

Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple, the post never occurred, you never read it, you
can never find it, so just admit that you were wrong, like you averred
you ALWAYS do on 10/11/2008, and re-enter that BWHAHAHA!!!
<darn must compose myself to complete this> "fortress of the
truth" in which you BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! <DAMN!!!> reside.

<losing it...>

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

"fortress of the truth", sheesh, you can't make up stuff this funny...

---
William Ernest "Shocked, SHOCKED I Tell You, That 'Icky' Lied" Reid
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Post by Bill Reid
Just THIS one, out of the seven mistakes you made in about as many
hours...even "Bore-Ass" is becoming ashamed of you...
What is your flipping problem freak? What mistakes? Oh yeah, I just
made one...d'oh! Seriously don't you ever get tired of having your
nose rubbed in your own urine? All you have to do is pee outside ya
bad dog! <Swats with rubber hollow prop cane, gwahahaha>
Post by Bill Reid
Post by Bill Reid
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
Oh really?!  Dear... dear...  Are you sure you're not making this up
just like when you told me you'd done the same thing to me?
But I never said I'd filed a civil suit complaint about you in any
court.  Please be so kind as to refer to the post where I said that,
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple, the post never occurred, you never read it, you
can never find it, so just admit that you were wrong, like you averred
you ALWAYS do on 10/11/2008, and re-enter that BWHAHAHA!!!
<darn must compose myself to complete this> "fortress of the
truth" in which you BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! <DAMN!!!> reside.
To the best of my recollection, you may not have said specifically
that you filed a civil suit against me within your long string of lies
and fantasies that you habitually fling at me, your obvious better and
your chief nemesis it seems<sobs>, (and good for you that you didn't
try), but I definitely recall you saying you'd sicked some "authority"
on me and to expect notification and possibly someone showing up at my
front door to take me away to the stripey hole, yes! It never
materialized, needless to say, since you're a GIGANTIC LIAR AND A BAD
BAD DOG!!!!!!!!! GWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! <SWAT!>

There!

So then how about a Snausage® would THAT make you change your mind?
Post by Bill Reid
<losing it...>
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
"fortress of the truth", sheesh, you can't make up stuff this funny...
I know you gurgling maniac, ain't it great and absolutely true! Now
then that I've complied to your obsessive (crazy!!!!) wishes the best
I can, will you at least go on the paper? Your drooling and
sputtering, I guess I'll just have to put up with that.
Post by Bill Reid
William Ernest "Shocked, SHOCKED I Tell You, That 'Icky' Lied" Reid
Are you really getting this frustrated and desperate for revenge?
BTW, how's your "lawsuit" going against Lowbrown? You were ordered to
report back on that, and you've failed to comply. Failure!

"You are the man to take the Ant Hill."
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"piop"
Bill Reid
2008-10-15 03:51:19 UTC
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Post by Bill Reid
Just THIS one, out of the seven mistakes you made in about as many
hours...even "Bore-Ass" is becoming ashamed of you...
Post by Bill Reid
Here's a funny secret about "Lowbrow", please don't tell him: last
Thursday I filed a complaint against him for libel among other things
in Superior
Court, and sent off a copy of the complaint and the summons to
the local marshalls to serve on him, probably will happen next
week.
Oh really?! Dear... dear... Are you sure you're not making this up
just like when you told me you'd done the same thing to me?
But I never said I'd filed a civil suit complaint about you in any
court. Please be so kind as to refer to the post where I said that,
"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple, the post never occurred, you never read it, you
can never find it, so just admit that you were wrong, like you averred
you ALWAYS do on 10/11/2008, and re-enter that BWHAHAHA!!!
<darn must compose myself to complete this> "fortress of the
truth" in which you BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! <DAMN!!!> reside.
To the best of my recollection, you may not have said specifically
that you filed a civil suit against me
So why did you lie about it? And why didn't you admit you lied
about it immediately:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by Bill Reid
but I definitely recall you saying you'd sicked some "authority"
on me and to expect notification and possibly someone showing up at my
front door to take me away to the stripey hole, yes!
You're lying AGAIN. I NEVER said you would be "notified" about
anything.

So go ahead and correct your LATEST lie, after failing to properly
correct your last seven lies promptly:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008
Post by Bill Reid
BTW, how's your "lawsuit" going against Lowbrown? You were ordered to
report back on that, and you've failed to comply.
I've already reported everything of substance that I'm going to tell you
now about the case; it was only filed a few days ago, and because of
the anonymous nature of the defendants, it may take a few weeks to
serve all of them (of course I now have power of subpeona to compel
their ISPs to provide me their true names and addresses). I can tell
you that the first "case management conference" is set for March 3,
2009 at 1:30pm, but I expect that the defendants will either settle or
default before that date, but we shall see...

Now go ahead and CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY admit you
were wrong about the other seven "mistakes" (actually lies) you have
made in the last few days:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008

Apparently "Icky" bought that "fortress of the truth" on a "no-doc"
sub-prime loan and was foreclosed on and evicted years ago...

---
William Ernest "I Love The Shade Of Blue I'm Turning" Reid
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On Oct 14, 10:51 pm, ""Reidiot®" " <***@happyhealthy.net>
wrote:>

And here we go again as if by some demented perpetual script........
So why did you lie about it?  And why didn't you admit you lied
I never lied about anything you lying crazy maniac. The mistake I made
was talking to you like you are any kind of a normal person. That's
my error, and that's no lie. You are a BAD DOG and I'm afraid you may
never be housebroken, so to the barn with you! Off you go!!! <SWAT!>
You're lying AGAIN.  I NEVER said you would be "notified" about
anything.
Lying liar, and what does it matter? Like you are a regular person
deserving of specific consideration of any sort... You know you
threatened me thusly, and I certainly don't feel like wading through
your cesspool of a posting history to find where all you did it and
exactly how it was worded. The threat was implicit, or else I would
have forgotten it completely like most of your lies. If you want to
sue me for "lying" per your idiotic definition of the term go right
ahead and try it lunatic. If you ever somehow manage to get me into
court I promise you, you will be buried up to your nose in every
rotten, harassing and threatening thing you have ever said to me! But
it's for naught, you just love to endlessly harrass and threaten
people and then do nothing about it because you are a cowardly
impotent SLUG and no part of a man. I could report you for your
constant harassment, but I don't because I feel a moral and mental
degenerate like you deserves pity, but you can only have it wrapped in
piss paper! Like it?!

So why don't you admit that immediately as it is a TOWER of TRUTH?

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."

AGAIN

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."

AGAIN

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."

Yea!
BTW, how's your "lawsuit" going against Lowbrown?  You were ordered to
report back on that, and you've failed to comply.
I've already reported everything of substance that I'm going to tell you
now about the case;
Oh so no more dumb and smug juvenile bragging about it like a spoiled
brat eh? GWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Your tactical errors crack me up! It's a
good thing to keep your stupid mouth shut, isn't it? ADMIT THAT!
You'll learn if you ever gather up the guts to do something like this
"suit" in the real world. I predict nil...
it was only filed a few days ago, and because of
the anonymous nature of the defendants, it may take a few weeks to
serve all of them (of course I now have power of subpeona to compel
their ISPs to provide me their true names and addresses).  I can tell
you that the first "case management conference" is set for March 3,
2009 at 1:30pm, but I expect that the defendants will either settle or
default before that date, but we shall see...
Yeah, right! Thanks for following my orders, and report back to me
as further things develop.... GWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

And with this I have nothing further for you, you impotent lying
maniac. You are dismissed!

"Well... it had to be done."
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ichorwhip <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:60f7e1b4-8afb-41f9-a4c7-***@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 14, 10:51 pm, ""Reidiot®" " <***@happyhealthy.net>
wrote:>
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
So why did you lie about it?
I never lied about anything you lying crazy maniac.
Sure you did, it's in black and white in the post you're responding
to, the stuff you snipped out, and you lied and have lied about many
things in several different ways, and the statement above contains
a lie, since you have NO proof or even the slightest reason to
believe I've ever lied about ANYTHING.
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
You're lying AGAIN. I NEVER said you would be "notified" about
anything.
Lying liar, and what does it matter?
It really doesn't, EVERYBODY knows you're a retarded lying loser who
just sneaks onto the Internet anonymously to lie and harrass people with
your lies.
Post by ichorwhip
You know you
threatened me thusly, and I certainly don't feel like wading through
your cesspool of a posting history to find where all you did it and
exactly how it was worded.
No, I didn't "threaten" you at all, just told you that I had taken
certain actions, including contacting certain "authorities", about
your increasingly deranged behavior. What I said was the truth.
Post by ichorwhip
The threat was implicit, or else I would
have forgotten it completely like most of your lies.
The "threat" wasn't "implicit", it was "explicit", as there now
exists a record with certain "authorities" of YOUR threatening
behavior towards me, and I did a little "extra-curricular" research
on your true idenity so some of them would have a better
identity to work with than "Icky-Whipped". That's all.

Later, when you repeatedly libeled me, I asked for a retraction
(which technically is not required since you are not a "newspaper",
but I did it anyway), and because of the laws of this state, I
asked that you voluntarily reveal your true name and address
in lieu of my obtaining them by subpeona. You refused to
retract your libelous statements, and in fact repeated them,
and did not reveal your true name and address, which allows
me to subpeona the information from your ISP in the event
I file a lawsuit against you.
Post by ichorwhip
If you want to
sue me for "lying" per your idiotic definition of the term go right
ahead and try it lunatic. If you ever somehow manage to get me into
court I promise you, you will be buried up to your nose in every
rotten, harassing and threatening thing you have ever said to me!
Ah yes, another one of your lies, your mastery of legal defenses
to a libel suit, and your "well-connected" (????) status with regard
to the law. It would of course be futile to ask just exactly HOW,
under what legal theory, I would be "buried up to my nose" in
court with the "rotten" things I have said to you, especially since
most of my posts to you have been only a slight editorial comment
on re-prints of the completely idiotic, racist, threatening, juvenile,
lyings things YOU have said, such as:

"That's why I keep myself safe in a fortress of
the truth. And when I'm wrong I admit it, something you never do."
- "Icky-Whipped", 10/11/2008

So I guess you'll bring that "into court", along with my response:

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

And in your rich fantasy life, that'll be the "Perry Mason moment"
that will win you the case!!! Oh, but to be sure, make sure to present
all those posts where I re-print your constant use of the "n-word"
here, that'll probably endear you to the lastest OJ jury...

It's not that you're an idiotic, lying, juvenile fantasy-dweller, it's that
you're SUCH an idiotic, lying, juvenile, fantasy-dweller...

---
William Ernest "Quote Monkey Court" Reid
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2008-10-15 22:35:10 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
wrote:>
Post by ichorwhip
Post by Bill Reid
So why did you lie about it?
I never lied about anything you lying crazy maniac.
Sure you did,
Nope, never, and your fantasies are not subject to the truth in any
event. You were summarily dismissed and yet you linger and why?
Could it be that I went too far? GWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by ichorwhip
it's in black and white in the post you're responding
to, the stuff you snipped out,
Similar to all the questions directed at you that you ignored?
Answering these questions would have been good therapy for you, but I
think you're too far gone. You are a late-stage rabies victim, and a
Pound Puppy®, and should be shunned.
Post by ichorwhip
Post by ichorwhip
You know you
threatened me thusly, and I certainly don't feel like wading through
your cesspool of a posting history to find where all you did it and
exactly how it was worded.
No, I didn't "threaten" you at all, just told you that I had taken
certain actions, including contacting certain "authorities", about
your increasingly deranged behavior.  What I said was the truth.
You did this and a lot more, lying liar pants afire.
Post by ichorwhip
Post by ichorwhip
The threat was implicit, or else I would
have forgotten it completely like most of your lies.
The "threat" wasn't "implicit", it was "explicit", as there now
exists a record with certain "authorities" of YOUR threatening
behavior towards me, and I did a little "extra-curricular" research
on your true idenity so some of them would have a better
identity to work with than "Icky-Whipped".  That's all.
So you stalked me and admit to explicitly threatening me afterall,
what a dummy.
Why did you lie about that anyway?

"No, I didn't "threaten" you at all,..." Whatever, your fantasies
aren't subject to the truth anyway, and how could they be? Wherever
could the truth be in your overall falsehood?
Post by ichorwhip
It's not that you're an idiotic, lying, juvenile fantasy-dweller, it's that
you're SUCH an idiotic, lying, juvenile, fantasy-dweller...
<mirror>
Post by ichorwhip
William Ernest "Quote Monkey Court" Reid
Still ever the phony fantasizer and pee-on-the-rug doggy. How about a
BegginStrip®? Would that make you do?

"Sebastian, come back here!"
i
"piop"
Harry Bailey
2008-10-15 09:58:37 UTC
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Interesting - if not inevitable - that the troll-stalked desolation of
AMK should conjure up a Bill Reid Ur-troll as a dead (spectral?)
ringer for the obnoxiously insufferable Delbert Grady, the pompous,
contemptible sociopath who is already undead and desperate to 'pass
on' his viral-possessive madness to the living ...
Post by Bill Reid
Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple
We're more likely to admit to delivering in no uncertain terms a firm
civil boot up your syphilised ass, banishing you forever into the
dementia of your hubristic cocoon, and with your internet connection
removed from your permanently padded cell at the 'experimental'
Institute of neurological disorders and social psychopathology.
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2008-10-15 22:39:09 UTC
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Post by Harry Bailey
Interesting - if not inevitable - that the troll-stalked desolation of
AMK should conjure up a Bill Reid Ur-troll as a dead (spectral?)
ringer for the obnoxiously insufferable Delbert Grady, the pompous,
contemptible sociopath who is already undead and desperate to 'pass
on' his viral-possessive madness to the living ...
Post by Bill Reid
Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple
We're more likely to admit to delivering in no uncertain terms a firm
civil boot up your syphilised ass, banishing you forever into the
dementia of your hubristic cocoon, and with your internet connection
removed from your permanently padded cell at the 'experimental'
Institute of neurological disorders and social psychopathology.
Now isn't this the truth?

"Oh, you're not serious?
Right out on the runway?"
i
"piop"
kelpzoidzl
2008-10-16 00:17:51 UTC
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Post by ichorwhip
Post by Harry Bailey
Interesting - if not inevitable - that the troll-stalked desolation of
AMK should conjure up a Bill Reid Ur-troll as a dead (spectral?)
ringer for the obnoxiously insufferable Delbert Grady, the pompous,
contemptible sociopath who is already undead and desperate to 'pass
on' his viral-possessive madness to the living ...
Post by Bill Reid
Just admit I never posted that I filed a civil suit complaint against
you...it's so simple
We're more likely to admit to delivering in no uncertain terms a firm
civil boot up your syphilised ass, banishing you forever into the
dementia of your hubristic cocoon, and with your internet connection
removed from your permanently padded cell at the 'experimental'
Institute of neurological disorders and social psychopathology.
Now isn't this the truth?
"Oh, you're not serious?
Right out on the runway?"
i
"piop"
No dude. Thats word salad.


dc
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
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You're obviously speaking to "The Imposter" who has taken to forging
screennames on AMK for his own devious pleasures.  If Wordsmith
actually wrote the above post it is entirely out of character for
him.  I think us rational people around here have a pretty good idea
who's up to this...
"You are a liar. You're an impostor. You're a deserter. I suspected
you this
morning and your lies and folly have confirmed this to me."
i
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What are yout talking about?
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=iNGy7hgAAACcCShK3tUA...
Is the floridated water getting to you? Start drinking bottled water
of something.
But in the mean time let's hear your theory?
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Idiot, if you create a bogus e-mail account, you can assign yourself
any e-mail address and name you want for google groups.  Then when you
post your forged posts they get categorized under the real person's
screenname and history.  Something like this is evidently going on
although I'm not sure of the mechanics involved because I don't do
such shit.  Anyways, you're too stupid and obtuse to see that
Wordsmith would never post something like this.  He speaks in fortune-
cookies usually, and it's just nowhere near his style.  The same thing
happened recently with a forged post that claimed it was from "Portia"
who we know as Genevieve.  Again a totally fake post.  It can be done,
and it is being done.   Pull your head out of your ass, and you'll see
something besides your brains...  Speak up Wordsmith, did you create
this thread or not?  If so, I stand corrected and amazed that after
all these years you pull something like this out of your ass...
Welcome to the House of Mirrors, Dorothy.
Wordsmith
2008-10-11 05:06:03 UTC
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...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

W : )
Don Stockbauer
2008-10-11 11:59:41 UTC
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Post by Wordsmith
...tell Ichorwhip or Padraig that I've given spare change to homeless
black
people on the street. It could tarnish their perceived vision of me as
a screaming
racist. Also, kindly not divulge that I, as a tenth grader in a
primarily black school,
was the only white member of the glee club. And, please, OH GOD
PLEASE,
not dare mention that, on a rare sleet-sodden night in northern
Louisiana, back in the '80s, that I, this self-same individdle, gave a
ride in a car--not a borrowed one,
mind you--but MY OWN, to an elderly black couple, making sure they got
home
all right. They acted like they wanted to adopt me. I'm telling yas,
Klep, if this gets
out I'll be FINISHED as a member of AMK! I'M SO SATURATED WITH SHAME I
COULD BURST!
NOT A PEEP, KLEP. NOT A PEEP!!
Your friend,
Wordsmith : )
PS Oh, did I forget to note that at that very same high school I was
the only
white guy who dressed out and played ball (very badly!) with the black
guys becuz
my pale-skinned pals thought (God, this is shameful! *cringe*) if they
bumped into
a darker-than-usual person, the pigment might rub off on them,
and...and...it would
NEVER COME OFF!
Mums the word, Klep...'k? *hopeful, trembling smile* : )
Ok.  Gotcha.  Mums the word. And likewise whatever you do, DON'T  tell
them I double-backed to Walhgrens today to give this poor black kid
sitting there, 2 dollars after I discovered  I DID have some cash on
me,  on the car seat.  If that kinds thing got out...then oh no!.
Don't tell them about my Uncle Tom, not-voting-for-Obama-either,
friends either---I'd be disgraced!
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
W : )
Isn't Usenet wonderful? You can shit on your dialectical opponent and
they can't jump across the table and kick the shit outta you. Makes it
nice for infinite, useless debates.

Yall have a nice little "Shit on each other " clique going here.
Congrats!
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